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German Protestants give up on Pro-Life work with Catholics
Catholic Conclave ^ | 26/6/2023 | CG

Posted on 06/26/2023 3:11:57 PM PDT by Gillibrand1

Week for Life: Break between Catholics and Protestants?

With the annual "Week for Life" campaign, the two major churches have been advocating for the protection of life since 1994. The Catholic Bishops' Conference has now confirmed that the Protestant Church has withdrawn from the project. But the Protestant Church is keeping a low profile.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; church; germany; splintersectinrome
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1 posted on 06/26/2023 3:11:57 PM PDT by Gillibrand1
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To: Gillibrand1

Remind me what the “Protestants” are protesting?


2 posted on 06/26/2023 3:28:20 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov
Abortions & euthanasia. Protestants will allow both in certain circumstances. Catholics won't. Use of contraceptives is another issue.

Where views diverge on euthanasia and abortion

The two churches do not have a common position on all issues at the beginning and end of life. For example, in May 2022, after lengthy discussion, the Protestants agreed that assisted suicide is possible in exceptional cases in the homes of the Protestant Diakonie. Thus, unlike the Catholic Caritas, it does not completely exclude the form of euthanasia.

The Protestant Church also takes a more differentiated position on the issue of abortion and allows abortion in some cases. The Catholic Church generally rejects abortion and considers it morally wrong because it protects human life from conception.

Furthermore, the Catholic Church rejects the use of artificial contraceptives and instead supports natural family planning methods. It also rejects pre-implantation genetic diagnosis (PGD), as this involves the examination and possible selection or discarding of embryos as part of artificial insemination. The Protestant Church does not have a unified position on either of these issues and allows its members personal freedom of choice in these matters.

3 posted on 06/26/2023 3:41:09 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: oblomov

The belief that Mary was born sinless, that she didn’t die but was taken straight up into Heaven, that she is the new Ark Of The Covenant, that people should pray to her rather than her Son because she cares more about us, and is more compassionate than Jesus.

That we’re supposed to talk to dead people, that God can’t forgive us directly, but He has to go through an intermediary, a priest, that babies can be baptized, even though they don’t yet believe in Jesus and His salvation. That we need to be purified in Purgatory after we die, instead oif trusitn that we’ll immediately enter into Jesus’ presence.

On and on and on. And that’s what we’re protesting, Charlie Brown!


4 posted on 06/26/2023 4:34:22 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed
Was or Freudian or just an oversight,
that you did not include The belief of the Real Presence of
the Body and Blood of Christ in the Eucharist as a protestation?
Seems to me disdain for the Eucharist
ought to be near the top of your list...


5 posted on 06/26/2023 5:14:21 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”)
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To: Sir_Ed
You need to get your information on Catholicism from a better source than Jack Chick.

Almost every single thing you claim is *wrong*.

6 posted on 06/26/2023 5:52:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: MurphsLaw

It’s not disdain. The last supper used symbols not the real thing.


7 posted on 06/26/2023 5:58:07 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Nifster
The last supper used symbols not the real thing.

And Christ's Crucifixion and Resurrection are also not the real thing. Right?

Or are you a cherry-picker?

8 posted on 06/26/2023 6:33:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I listen to ETWN all the time: Catholic Answers Live says these things, as does Jimmy Aikens and other Catholic hosts.

Do you really deny that the Catholic church says Mary was born sinless (they call it The Immaculate Conception)? That she didn’t die? They call that The Ascension.

And praying to Mary is urged throughout the church. I’ve heard many hosts on ETWN call Mary the Ark Of The New Covenant, they use it to explain why people should pray to her, and why she was born sinless.

The belief that sins can’t be directly forgiven but have to be forgiven by a priest was a belief I heard explained a few days ago, when a priest said Mortal Sins can’t be forgiven in any other way other than by directly confessing in person to a priest: a caller had asked if a Mortal sin can be forgiven over the phone, the priest said you have to confess that sin, in person, to a priest and that was the only way that sin can be forgiven, praying directly to God and asking for His forgiveness wasn’t even mentioned.

And babies being baptized before they’re aware of salvation, do you deny that babies are baptized? And Purgatory? You’re not aware of the belief in Purgatory?

The only thing that can’t be said to be direct quotes is the belief that Mary should be prayed to as she has more compassion than her Son, that’s just implied, but I’ve heard that expressed many times, that Mary is sweet, compassionate, gentle and therefore able to talk her Son into forgiving heinous crimes.

You should dig more deeply into your church’s beliefs!

Ed


9 posted on 06/26/2023 6:40:37 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Gillibrand1
Break between Catholics and Protestants?

It's about time. VC II's "ecumenism" is a joke.

10 posted on 06/26/2023 6:41:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: MurphsLaw

No, actually I’m somewhat open to that, if it can be shown to me. Jesus does use the words “eat my flesh...drink my blood” and the Bible says many people left, horrified at Jesus’ words and what they implied.

I’m open to the fact that I may be wrong about that...


11 posted on 06/26/2023 6:42:41 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

Why do you have a problem with what another Christian religion believes in? I’m sure there are plenty of Protestant churches with views different than yours. Why not dissect and criticize those instead of focusing on our 2000-year-old religion which you clearly know nothing about?


12 posted on 06/26/2023 7:10:25 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Sir_Ed
Professing to be wise, they became fools -

It's like looking in a funhouse mirror - you are skimming and cherry picking and missing the essentials. Like the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord, which protestants reject (even though Our Lord was very specific, and when many walked with him no more, he didn't say, "Wait! You misunderstood!" he repeated his statement.)

So many errors . . . it's the Assumption, not the Ascension (that's Christ). But I simply don't have the time to explain all this to you . . . assuming you would even be receptive to it.

13 posted on 06/26/2023 7:30:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Sir_Ed

. . . and I will pray that you continue to listen to EWTN, but with a seeker’s heart and desire for the Truth rather than as the Accuser of the Brethren.


14 posted on 06/26/2023 7:31:39 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: ebb tide

I did not say that at all. YOU can cherry pick what I didn’t say but did not address my statement except to say something I never said

Jesus’s words were do this in remembrance of me


15 posted on 06/26/2023 7:31:50 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Nifster

What part of:

This is My Body

This is My Blood

Do you not understand?


16 posted on 06/26/2023 7:43:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: Prince of Space

I know a great deal about Catholicism. I’ve read more than several books on it, listen to podcasts from and about Catholics, listen religiously (badda bump!) to Catholic Answers Live, Journey Home, Bear Wozniak, Father Arroyo, Father Ricardo and many others, plus three very good friends are Catholic.

Ed


17 posted on 06/26/2023 8:20:06 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: AnAmericanMother

You missed my reply that I accept that I may be wrong about the Eucharist, so that doesn’t really apply to me.

As to the rest of your comments, they’re rather insulting…truth be told.

I’m hardly “the accuse of the Brethren” an appellation usually directed towards Satan. I consider Catholics to be my Brethren except for a few of their beliefs.

You’re right about the Ascension being the wrong term, it should’ve been The Assumption of Mary.

I stand by everything I said, and it wasn’t stated with rancor. He asked me what we “protested” and I told him a few things.

Ed


18 posted on 06/26/2023 8:25:42 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed
I know a great deal about Catholicism.

I highly doubt that. Otherwise you would have become a Catholic.

19 posted on 06/26/2023 8:34:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: Nifster
It’s not disdain.

Oh...it's disdain alright...
Maybe not for you personally...
but disdain Is exactly the word:

noun;
the feeling that someone
or something is unworthy
of one's consideration or respect;


But let me ask you...
Whether symbol or Real;
Do you feel it's necessarily to heed
St. Paul's very specific warning of Cor 11-
To not approach "the bread" UNworthily?
Or can we ignore him on that?

27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord
in an unworthy manner will be guilty of
sinning against the body and blood of the Lord
.
28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before
they eat of the bread and drink from the cup.
29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ
eat and drink judgment on themselves.


20 posted on 06/26/2023 9:29:07 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilt)
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