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I think referring to "organized religion" needs to be modified. There is organization required in any earthly human endeavor. But I get your point. We can organize beyond the mission. The tools become more important that the Object.

I never was a Joel Osteen fan although I kind of liked his dad.

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“I think referring to “organized religion” needs to be modified. There is organization required in any earthly human endeavor. But I get your point. We can organize beyond the mission. The tools become more important that the Object.
I never was a Joel Osteen fan although I kind of liked his dad.”

Point taken.

I never watched Osteen’s dad, but I did like him. I know better now. I equate him to the same demonic Kenneth Copeland false prophets NAR cult now. All are leading people astray, IMO.