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‘Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens don’t represent American Christians when it comes to Israel’
World Israel News ^ | 4/11/24 | David Rosenberg

Posted on 04/12/2024 5:15:14 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Victor Davis Hanson, a historian and professor emeritus of California State University, Fresno, pushed back on criticism of Israel on the American Right, adding that recent comments by right-wing pundits like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens do not represent the conservative movement or the American Religious Right.

Hanson, who has frequently appeared as a guest on Carlson’s now-cancelled Fox News show, “Tucker Carlson Tonight”, and his current, independently-produced “Tucker Carlson Uncensored,” spoke with Megyn Kelly on Wednesday regarding the rise in anti-Israel rhetoric on the American Right.

Ignorant Arguments about Christians and Israel

“Most of the evangelical community I know is still very pro-Israel,” Hanson said.

“I think what we’re talking about is the libertarian, right intellectual movement. I know that Tucker Carlson is voicing things, Candace Owens has, the CATO Institute has been very vocal.”

“But I don’t think it represents most Christians, much less most Americans. But I don’t know quite what their argument is because I’ve seen so many of them.”

“It doesn’t take a lot of brains to say ‘there’s 500 million people in the Middle East and there’s 12 million that live in a democratic government.’ And that is the only democratic constitutional system there.”

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Judaism; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; candaceowens; fringe; israel; ohsomysteriouso; tuckercarlson; ufo; ufos
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To: Lake Living

Be encourag3d, YESHUA will return, and everything that exalts itself against him will be destroyed.


41 posted on 04/12/2024 6:53:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: suthener

Yes, but YESHUA is King of America.


42 posted on 04/12/2024 6:54:48 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: Badboo
Wrong, so completely wrong. Proven over and over again by every poll.

Poll? LOL. It is a fact that Israel created Hamas to serve as a check against the PLO, because they never wanted a 2-state or any other peaceful solution. Hamas is a foil, a pre-text that Israel can use to maintain self-defense.

But for an abject apologist for the new Nazis it is your mantra. Bad try, you failed.

There you go with the Nazi strawman. Any valid and objective criticism of Israel means that someone is a Nazi. This dog simply isn't going to hunt anymore.

Hamas is dedicated to killing Jews

How come Israel hasn't wiped them off the face of the Earth then? Or are they waiting for the U.S. to do their dirty work and then the displaced refugees can be moved to Western nations?

Oh look, a deflection rather than denial.

Oh look, the truth. The IDF randomly shoots at Palestinian children and uses them for target practice. If the Palestinians go out to Sea, they get shot at by Israeli snipers.

Because the truth cannot be denied. Israel is operating by the rules of war.

ROFL

It is your beloved Hamas that openly admits to and practices genocide. Your deflection is an admission that you know the truth and will never live by it, because you prefer evil.

Dude, I don't care about Hamas (again, created by Israel) or the Palestinians, or the Muslim World. I DON'T CARE. I want the U.S. to be sovereign and not beholden to foreign nations or entities. Especially Israel. This is not hard to understand.

including raping and torturing Jewish infants. Which they do when given the opportunity.

Are the 40 Israeli infants that were supposedly raped by Hamas lies or not?

Not all were lies.

Narrator: They were lies

But then you don't have the guts to actually watch the videos your beloved Hamas murderers and rapists took. Did you wish you were there?

Don't care about Hamas or the Palestinians. My objective is to have American elected officials be accountable to Americans. That is all.

Another deflection. You protest the lawful actions of Israel in order to support a virulent anti-Semitic and anti-American population of Hamas supporting Palestinians.

There you go again with the anti-Semitism card. Valid criticism of Israel isn't anti-Semitism. Sorry dude but like I said that dog isn't going to hunt anymore.

We will never be even. You will never be even close to a moral and reputable character with your lies and evasions in support of terroristic murderers.

You're not even on the same plane as me.

43 posted on 04/12/2024 6:56:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: roving; EEGator
Religious Jews do not like Christians. One pastor said they were pounding on his church doors, wanting to know if there were any Jews in there they were trying to convert. It’s not uncommon for them to protest churches. I stand behind them because one day they will bow down to Jesus.

You bring up an excellent point: Jews don't proselytize, at least not like evangelicals or mormons. They don't now and they didn't 1,000 or 2,000+ years ago. Jesus and his 12 Disciples also didn't proselytize. They ministered to those in Judaea and Jews/Romans/Samaritans/etc searched out Jesus and his disciples. A tenet that Jesus espoused, the road is hard but the reward is greater....... those who wish to learn had to come to Jesus.

The Jews have been beaten down and genocided for millennia, why wouldn't they be apprehensive and territorial to Paulinist christians proselytizing and (probably in their view) further eroding their culture, heritage, and religion? The only time anyone was "authorized" to proselytize on behalf of Jesus' teachings was after he died and the Jesus Community was becoming fractured, the disciples got sick and tired of Paul and told him to go do whatever he wanted but leave them alone.

So I don't begrudge any Jew getting mad that Paulinist christians would be trying to erase someone's judaism (who is an ethnic or religious jew).

Jesus was a Zionist Jew. He believed the end of things was near during his time and his whole mission was Israel-centric and Jew-centric, he believed that Jerusalem and Israel would be the capital of heaven on earth.

It's why all Christianities and their clergy and followers, quote Paul 387,000 times over quoting Jesus. Paul's dialectical esoteric nonsense is easier to digest than Jesus' very specific Israel-centric and Jewish-centric message and mission.
44 posted on 04/12/2024 7:10:15 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: suthener
Thank you. You just expressed my opinion perfectly.

Unfortunately, this sentiment isn't shared throughout the Internet and in the halls of Congress. I mean, we MUST support Israel. Nobody ever asks why, it is just normalized. A country the size of New Jersey completely has our government by the balls. This is not hating on Israel or being muh "antisemitic." I just wanna know WHY we need to support them, when they have advanced weaponry, MOSSAD, and a defensive system that are in the top ten of the world.

45 posted on 04/12/2024 7:16:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: brent13a
Jesus was a Zionist Jew. He believed the end of things was near during his time ...

Uh ... whut?

This sounds like a brand of Christianity that has gone off the rails.

Correction -- this sounds like a brand of Christianity that was never on the rails to begin with.

46 posted on 04/12/2024 7:22:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: EEGator
Give it twenty years.

This is right. People younger than 40 have not been steeped in WWII-era propaganda the way their parents and grandparents have. And Dispensationalist Christian Zionism is less and less prevalent in the churches. What I see is the neocons and the philosemites getting more and more shrill as the post-war consensus simply ages out of the system. White Christian males younger than 40 want to know what the US Government is going to do for them. They increasingly just don't care about the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, China, anything else far removed from their lives.

47 posted on 04/12/2024 7:26:34 PM PDT by Tom in SFCA
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Why is any objective and valid criticism of Israel”

Show me some. Cite Sources. Not saying its not out there , bu I don’t really see it.


48 posted on 04/12/2024 7:26:44 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It’s also a fruit of a Theology that call GOD THE FATHER the Old Testement GOD, and YESHUA the New Testiment one.


49 posted on 04/12/2024 7:27:28 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: brent13a

You seem to have a problem with Paul. That is identical to having a problem with Jesus.


50 posted on 04/12/2024 7:29:03 PM PDT by Tom in SFCA
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To: brent13a

YESHUA: GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL CREATION, AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL MEN, BEFINING IN JERUSALEM. The best way to bless Israel is with YESHUA.


51 posted on 04/12/2024 7:29:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: brent13a

YESHUA is the risen and everything GOD.


52 posted on 04/12/2024 7:31:44 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Tom in SFCA

Yes, the great falling away is happening. But the true revival of all those who will be true disciples of YESHUA will be far greater


53 posted on 04/12/2024 7:35:17 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Tom in SFCA

So is Replacment Theology.


54 posted on 04/12/2024 7:36:06 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: brent13a; Alberta's Child
Jesus was a Zionist Jew. He believed the end of things was near during his time and his whole mission was Israel-centric and Jew-centric, he believed that Jerusalem and Israel would be the capital of heaven on earth.

The same Jesus who said His kingdom was not of this world?

The whole parable of the marriage feast from Matthew 22 utterly rebukes your notion that Jesus was a Zionist in the modern sense, for the Jews who rejected Him would be cast off.

But I wonder: you speak of Jesus believing that the end times were near, as though His knowledge were imperfect (since the end times have not yet occurred). Do you believe Jesus to be the Son of God?

55 posted on 04/12/2024 7:41:03 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Spot on! Extremely Extreme Extremist is right as usual.


56 posted on 04/12/2024 7:45:48 PM PDT by FLvoter
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To: dfwgator

It goes back to Pre-War Europe where the Socialist Bundist Jews despised the Zionists, because they felt concentrating all Jewish people in one country, ran counter to their goal of a world-wide Socialist Revolution.
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I assume you surmised I was unaware of that backstory, so thank you for sharing it.


57 posted on 04/12/2024 7:54:31 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Biden left our troops to die in Afghanistan and our military equipment to our enemy. Never forget.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

VDH is right as usual. count our Bible based, charismatic, brother-built church as standing squarely in support of and always praying for God’s Chosen People, and God’s Chosen Land.

we have no part in any spirit—Christian or Non-Christian—arguing for the erasure of Israel or the Jewish People.


58 posted on 04/12/2024 10:27:19 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
How much shekels did Hanson get paid to write this? Why is any objective and valid criticism of Israel deemed hateful or antisemitic, including on this very Forum?

So anyone who disagrees with you is paid by Israel, but you think that your position is "valid criticism?"
You should learn self-awareness
59 posted on 04/12/2024 11:34:24 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: EEGator
Times are changing. People are tired of Israel and leftist Jew BS.
So you are getting in bed with Leftists, Jewish and Gentile, in opposition to Israel. Grievance rots the mind and soul. Antisemitism always leads to treason. Look where you put yourself and make a rational case that I am wrong.
60 posted on 04/12/2024 11:36:50 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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