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Planted Lynx Fur In Habitat Survey Upsets Legislators bureacrats {Congress can be so easily led}
Associated Press ^ | Monday, December 31, 2001 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/31/2001 5:03:05 PM PST by expose

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To: expose
"Planted Lynx Fur In Habitat Survey"....hmmm, this fox smells a crime. We'll see....
21 posted on 12/31/2001 6:30:56 PM PST by Cindy
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To: farmfriend
Does anyone else have a problem with this statement?

I have a major problem with this statement.
It didn't seem logical? What about collecting the data, performing an appropriate statistically based analysis, and forming a conclusion based on pre-determined standards that include all the data collected?

22 posted on 12/31/2001 6:34:49 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: farmfriend
Logic, reason, and the scientific method have no place in this issue.
23 posted on 12/31/2001 6:35:50 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cindy
Fox?.....got pics?...:-)
24 posted on 12/31/2001 6:59:01 PM PST by glasseye
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To: Congressman Billybob
they do it all the time
25 posted on 12/31/2001 6:59:16 PM PST by expose
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To: expose
Methinks; low slinks the fink that winks for the lynx!
26 posted on 12/31/2001 7:00:24 PM PST by keithtoo
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To: expose
You should see how they count Manatees in FL, and assign deaths to what cause. Instead of died - other they have died - must have been a boat.

And for the 1000 pound manatees, well, we close all the waters under two feet deep so they won't get hit by a boat. Figure that one out if you can.

tarpon

27 posted on 12/31/2001 7:02:47 PM PST by tarpon_bill
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To: Congressman Billybob
Environmentalists Organizations Exposed
28 posted on 12/31/2001 7:04:34 PM PST by expose
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To: Congressman Billybob
Congress can be so easily led by these reports
29 posted on 12/31/2001 7:05:37 PM PST by expose
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To: Ben Ficklin
The Biggest LIE:Global Warming as the Great Reds' Green Hoax
30 posted on 12/31/2001 7:10:12 PM PST by expose
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To: farmfriend

"I didn't trust the results of the lab, so I wasn't going to tell them I was sending in a blind sample. A 1998 study came out with the results of lynx up and down the Cascades, and that didn't seem logical. Most of us doubted it. How could there be so many lynx?"

I got this off of the linked article. Does anyone else have a problem with this statement? The earlier study was wrong because it came back with too many lynx? Wasn't the study supposed to determin how many there were? The lab came back with results we didn't like so we sent in false samples to test the lab????

I don't get it. A previous study says there are "lynx up & down the Cascades", the scientists are skeptical of this claim - in exactly the same way that many people here are - so this time they send in control samples to test whether the lab really knows what they're doing! Friends, that's good scientific procedure! The only thing they did "wrong" was not getting permission from their superiors. Then word gets out to the press - garbled, it turns out - and the story mutates into "SCIENTISTS FAKE LYNX DATA TO TRY AND SHUT DOWN THE FORESTS!" Incredible.
31 posted on 12/31/2001 7:15:04 PM PST by jennyp
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To: expose
UPSET? And they'll huff and they'll puff and they won't even blow down the straw house. Does anyone think anything will be done about this?
32 posted on 12/31/2001 7:24:09 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: jennyp
I know your statement is a joke right? Your trying to be sarcastic aren't you? If your not this has got to be the dumbest reasoning ever. As if you can't test lynx hairs without having to plant them. There are other easier means of testing the methods used and it sure doesn't entail fooling anyone.
33 posted on 12/31/2001 7:28:09 PM PST by Sigarmed
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To: jennyp
What I understood they DID WRONG.....was PLANT lynx furs in the forest pretending it was there all on its very own. That's what has caused all the furor.....NOT that the lab was being tested, which is what they are now trying to say to cover up what they did.
34 posted on 12/31/2001 7:40:59 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Bunny, you are right, it is fraud, but it was committed (and then exposed) not attempted. The government is going to use the study, and the perps have kept their jobs and moved to another position to do it again for, say kangaroo rats, or some other worthless vermin.

The BS excuse that they were "testing" the labs won't fly as they could have sent samples from Lynx and other similar non-Lynx cats in a single blind test. It wasn't necessary to go into the field to test the lab. Ironic that the lab was so good that the lab nailed the samples as from a ringer animal already in the custody of these "biologists".

35 posted on 12/31/2001 7:41:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: jennyp
Please see post #35.
36 posted on 12/31/2001 7:44:03 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: jennyp
"I don't get it.

I think that you get it, they got caught and made up a cute little story. - There's no such thing as an honest environmentalist.

We all know how honest you are though jenny; like you would never come down on the side of a fellow psuedo-sci-groupie, would you?

37 posted on 12/31/2001 7:45:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: expose
This article from the Medford OR paper mentions that of the 7 involved in the hoax, one has retired and six have been tranferred.

That one has retired is a significant departure from earlier stories. The earlier stories implied that all 7 were low level employees but if one is of, or close to, retirement age, that would imply an advanced position in the orginization.

38 posted on 12/31/2001 7:46:25 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Congressman Billybob,Psycho_Bunny,yooper,Queen Elizabeth of Iowa,DWSUWF,sistergoldenhair,citizen,
May i ask, how do you think the Terrorists got to be 503C status???

Congress give the Terrorists the 503C status that how

you don't hear no one Talking about that do you!!!

Congress can be so easily led by these reports


39 posted on 12/31/2001 7:47:40 PM PST by expose
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40 posted on 12/31/2001 7:48:39 PM PST by expose
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