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Federal judge examines Flight 800: court inquiring if investigators abused justice system
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, April 23, 2004 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 04/23/2004 1:15:23 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Almost eight years after TWA Flight 800 was blasted out of the sky, a federal judge permitted discovery to go forward in a civil case James and Elizabeth Sanders have brought against the federal government and eight named defendants.

A retired cop turned journalist, Sanders alleged that the defendants – namely certain federal officials involved in the Flight 800 investigation – perverted the system, using ordinary criminal process for the improper purpose of quelling the free speech of him and his wife, Elizabeth, the plaintiffs in the case.

"Not only is the chilling of free speech of citizens not what the criminal process is designed to do," wrote federal district judge Joanna Seybert, "it is inimical to our system of laws and justice." In so declaring, Judge Seybert has, perhaps for the first time in American history, opened a federal civil court to a case that the government and its media accomplices have dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

With retired United Airlines pilot Ray Lahr advancing his case against the National Transportation Safety Board and the CIA through the Los Angeles District Court, it is possible – although by no means certain – the federal courts may finally address the great untold story of our time.

In the way of background, Sanders had begun investigating the possibility that a criminal act brought down TWA Flight 800 just months after the act took place in 1996. He developed high-level sources within the investigation, who gave Sanders documents that, to this day, have not been declassified.

One NTSB document given to Sanders is particularly critical. The document revealed that Federal Aviation Administration controllers had, in fact, tracked an object that approached and intersected with TWA 800 just as it exploded. According to the document, FAA technicians picked up the phone and immediately called the "White House." This FAA message went directly to terrorism czar Richard Clarke, who shortly thereafter convened a meeting in the White House situation room.

As we reported last week, Clarke deceives the readers of his book "Against All Enemies about the provocation behind this meeting. In his retelling, the FAA "was at a total loss" for why the plane disappeared from its radar screens. To dismiss talk of terrorism, Clarke positions the plane's last altitude at 17,000 feet, more than 3,200 feet above the last FAA reading.

Other documents leaked to Sanders showed a pattern of destruction originating on the extreme right side of the 747. The New York Times' FBI sources identified row 23, extreme right side, as the point at which an explosive event was first seen inside the passenger cabin. In his book, Clarke ignores the doubly confirmed PETN residue found in this section and claims that row 23 is where the center wing tank accidentally exploded, a fact he boasts of having discovered before the NTSB or the FBI. Needless to say, Sanders is eager to depose Mr. Clarke.

Another source told Sanders the FBI had classified portions of the Navy underwater debris field video and would not let any NTSB investigator view the classified video. Sanders would soon learn the debris field was being altered to fit the exploding-fuel-tank hypothesis that the NTSB and FBI had been ordered to create. The FBI was also making sure the independent-minded NTSB investigators saw no parts that did not belong to TWA Flight 800.

In the course of his investigation, Sanders showed a key source a damage pattern across rows 17-18-19, heading toward the left side of the passenger cabin. When the source observed the pattern, he remarked that a reddish-orange residue was on the seatbacks of those rows, and only those rows. This discovery would lead to the arrest of the source ... and both James and Elizabeth Sanders.

The source offered to scrape off red residue samples and give those to Sanders to have tested in a commercial lab. When the Riverside Press-Enterprise published the results of that test along with other revelations on Monday, March 10, 1997, all hell broke loose.

The federal conspirators had a serious problem. The retired cop that had targeted them obviously had sources within their investigation. Those sources were still at work. For all the conspirators knew, someone sitting in on their meetings was a whistleblower. To stop the journalistic investigation into their now transparent lawlessness, they unleashed the power of the Justice Department.

After the story broke, U.S. Attorney Valerie Caproni met with Sanders and his attorney and told them that Sanders would be indicted and prosecuted if he did not reveal who his sources were. Sanders refused to cooperate. Caproni then pulled out her trump card. She promised to indict Sanders' wife, Elizabeth Sanders, if Sanders did not cease his investigation and reveal his sources.

When Sanders again refused to cooperate, the FBI forced Elizabeth into a soul-withering exile and out of TWA, which fired Elizabeth. On Dec. 5, 1997, the FBI obtained arrest warrants for both Sanders for conspiring with an NTSB source to have residue tested. The courts prohibited them from conducting a First Amendment defense outlining the criminal acts of those James Sanders was investigating, and both were convicted.

But instead of the possible 10-year imprisonment, the judge sentenced Liz to one-year probation and 25 hours community service. James was sentenced to three years probation and 50 hours community service.

Now, the Sanders civil action comes before that same judge, Joanna Seybert.

In her written memorandum of March 31, 2004, Seybert acknowledges that the essence of the Sanders' complaint is the federal government prosecuted the Sanders to discourage them from disseminating views on the destruction of TWA Flight 800 "at variance with the government's official views on that subject as well as to publicly discredit [Sanders'] views." This, they allegedly did "in violation of their First Amendment rights."

"In this case," wrote Seybert, "the allegations contained in the Amended Complaint are sufficient to state a claim for abuse of process." The Sanders, she added, "have satisfied their burden to withstand this motion [to dismiss] and are entitled to conduct discovery relating to this claim."

Let the discovery begin.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1996; 1997; 199712; 1stammendment; elizabethsanders; firstamendment; flight800; freedomofspeech; gorelick; jamessanders; joannaseybert; richardclarke; riversidepress; twa800; twa800list; twaflight800
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1 posted on 04/23/2004 1:15:23 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
BUMP
2 posted on 04/23/2004 1:21:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Who stole the fire truck in Poynor TX?? They need it back, please.... thanks)
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To: GeronL
My father flew the DC-8 for 20 years. This plane had a center fuel tank, that on some trips, contained only "slosh fuel" as stated as the ignition point for flight 800. There was never any such problem, ever. I have asked several pilots of 747's if this could happen and they have all said no way! Aviation fuel takes more than a spark to ignite it, and nothing less than a fire would cause it to explode. Many experts have said that this could not have been the reason for the destruction of Flight 800. But, this and the eyewitness accounts of 110 people, would not convince the investigaters that a missle was at fault.
3 posted on 04/23/2004 1:42:47 AM PDT by DISCO
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To: DISCO
I don't think that was the problem with TWA 800. I think it was a shoulder-launched SAM and the Clinton re-election team buried it. They didn't want to deal with it.

If he had announced it was a terrorist attack and DID SOMETHING it could have stopped other attacks and maybe prevented 9-11.

4 posted on 04/23/2004 1:51:26 AM PDT by GeronL (Who stole the fire truck in Poynor TX?? They need it back, please.... thanks)
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To: DISCO
Bump!!!

5 posted on 04/23/2004 1:53:10 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (PLEASE become a monthly donor. Just $3 a month by credit card?)
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To: GeronL
It's not Vince Foster or China or a hundred other murders, but it might be one step closer to opening the eyes of a reasonable percentage of Americans to the extent of the deceit, treason, and corruption of the Clintons.

Let's hope.

Step one to defeating an enemy is recognizing them as such.

Our two enemies are leftists and terrorists. The public now generally recognizes one of these. They won't see the other, until they first realize the level of corruption of the Clintons, and then wonder how such a disaster could have happened, right under our noses, in the White House itself. Then perhaps they will begin to realize the depth of deceit in the media, 'Rat party and other bastions of liberalism.

One small step here; pray that it's one giant step for liberty.

6 posted on 04/23/2004 1:54:54 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Defeat J Frondeur Kerry)
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To: ThePythonicCow
I wonder what the media would shreik about if the FBI re-opened that investigation?
7 posted on 04/23/2004 1:58:24 AM PDT by GeronL (Who stole the fire truck in Poynor TX?? They need it back, please.... thanks)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Oh - one aspect of this always seemed pretty obvious to me.

While I was as disappointed as the next person that Bush came into town with this "new tone", and actively discouraged anyone in his administration trying to investigate or prosecute the crimes of the previous (mis)administration, I don't fault him for doing that.

He'd have been a dead man if he had. He clearly holds to the school that says you don't pick a fight unless you intend to win it. This is not one he could have one, had he taken it head on.

8 posted on 04/23/2004 2:06:46 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Defeat J Frondeur Kerry)
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To: JohnHuang2
...it is possible – although by no means certain – the federal courts may finally address the great untold story of our time...

This is an important story, but it is only a drop in the vast sea of corruption known as the government of the united States.
9 posted on 04/23/2004 2:32:39 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; Shermy; ...
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10 posted on 04/23/2004 4:12:57 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: JohnHuang2
I met James and Elizabeth Sanders several years ago and discussed their nightmare of trying to get to the bottom of this government cover-up. There were HUNDREDS of eyewitnesses who saw what looked like a missile rise toward the airliner. Two of these eyewitnesses were Air National Guard pilots, airborne so close to the 747 the pilots could see human bodies falling.

The CIA film animation of what the government contends happened to the plane is so far out of the realm of the laws of physics as to be laughable. What the CIA was doing in the middle of the TWA 800 investigation is a comedic mystery.

Under federal law, the National Transportation Safety Board investigates airline crashes. Nobody has ever explained why the FBI seized control of the entire investigation and wouldn't let the NTSB do its work, thus breaking the laws of the United States.

We don't live under a government of laws. The legal process in America is a fabrication - a damn lie.

11 posted on 04/23/2004 4:15:05 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: JohnHuang2
According to the document, FAA technicians picked up the phone and immediately called the "White House." This FAA message went directly to terrorism czar Richard Clarke, who shortly thereafter convened a meeting in the White House situation room.

they unleashed the power of the Justice Department

Paging Jamie Gorelick!

12 posted on 04/23/2004 4:22:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: JohnHuang2
Here's another "will we finally hear the truth about TWA Flt 800?" bump.

It is said "the truth will set you free." In the case of TWA Flt 800, I'm hoping it will do the opposite for some Clinton people.

13 posted on 04/23/2004 4:26:59 AM PDT by GBA
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To: ThePythonicCow; GeronL
Judge Seybert has, perhaps for the first time in American history, opened a federal civil court to a case that the government and its media accomplices have dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

Where are all the 'tinfoil' accusers now?

Bring it on, lurkers!

14 posted on 04/23/2004 4:27:01 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: DISCO
"Aviation fuel takes more than a spark to ignite it.

Jet fuel is basically kerosene. You can put a match out in kerosene. It has to be heated in jet engines before it goes to the the combustion chamber. Once heated it is almost as volitle as gasoline. Gasoline would not work in Jet engines for obvious reasons. It is too volitle and would cause exlosions.

The CLINTON/GORE explanation of flight 800 never made any sense. Why had it never occured before? (center tank explosion) I hope we get answers.

15 posted on 04/23/2004 5:03:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (God Bless America, God Bless our Troops.)
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To: GeronL
I don't think that was the problem with TWA 800. I think it was a shoulder-launched SAM and the Clinton re-election team buried it. They didn't want to deal with it.

I disagree with you only very slightly. I suspect a missile slightly larger than a shoulder-fired one, possibly a pedestal-mount vehicular or light naval unit, or perhaps an air-to-air aircraft missile reworked for ground launch and control, similar to the British Rapier or U.S. Chapparal.

16 posted on 04/23/2004 5:22:32 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Getting close - perhaps this discovery is needed by both parties to throw the Clinton croud out of the club.
17 posted on 04/23/2004 6:18:59 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: ThePythonicCow
"Our two enemies are leftists and terrorists."

Our two enemies are the politicians from both parties and terrorists. If any Republican wanted to get the truth out on this all it would have taken would be an interview on O'Reiley to bring out a few buried facts. The Republicans are in collusion with the Democrats over their heads.
18 posted on 04/23/2004 6:19:58 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. .Voltaire)
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To: archy
Wasn't a Russian missile of similar description (pedestal mounted) found in a field in Virginia all set to fire, about 2 years ago?

(I am not ruling out the amazing possibility that you will post a picture of said missile, that is how highly I regard your skills.) Best,

19 posted on 04/23/2004 6:22:25 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: ovrtaxt; _Jim
Underscore has been notably silent lately.
20 posted on 04/23/2004 6:28:29 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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