After we're done with these terrorists, I'd like to see a concerted effort to rid the world of conspiracy paranoia.
You're not helping.
We are tied to the UN, now our protector, because we do not have the military strength to go it alone by ourselves, the Dems to stingy to provide for entitlements, the Pubs too stingy to force businesses and tax payers to cough up the money for strong armed force. On top of that we have feminists and humanists who put human life above liberty and make us so scared of pouring blood and collateral damages that we end up prefering bowing to communist thugs and criminals at the UN rather than slit the throats of a good 2 billion souls feeding the scaries scums of the Earth of China, Russia, North´Korea, Cuba, the Middle East et al.
Considering that now the little "Somalies" have been able to flatten the fatso wall streeter at the WTC, I am wondering who is better off.
We have to admit that every one is on the left in the US save for a few individuals of the armed forces. Even so called conservative business men would like to do business without having to carry a firearm or forcing employees to pledge to the flag. The Dems are on welfar pay check mode, the Pubs and the dems are both on army welfare protection mode, with the sole and sad difference that the tax payers are given more respects at times when they get flattened at the WTC than when our service men get whacked in the USS Cole.
Somehow this is going to have to change, because I do not like the idea of building coalitions because we do not have the military strength to go it alone, requesting welfare protection benefits from a bunch of psychopaths in Syria or SOmalia, so that we can keep doing business and the airlines can keep flying.
There is no doubt that some people have financial benefited from this attack, at west but also at east. Worse is that the East has also benefited miltarily speaking, but not the West. The result is that we will ultimately will have to pay up to the thugs who have the military and blood pouring power, or else we will get nuked.
It is highly possible that blackmail is involved, some people out west are not speaking up and are paying instead RUssians and Muslims to shut their mouth.
A lot of people would admire anyone who could eat 100 pounds of pork-n-beans.
But they wouldn't want him around when his actions started to bring forth repercussions.
The Media is telling us that the Taliban use heroin profits to finance their terrorist activities and that opium/poppy stockpiles will be targeted by US forces.
So...what's the real truth here?
Push the tinfoil skullcap down so it covers ALL strands of hair.
Just some friendly advice, Mr. Outpatient. Do take your meds; they will help.
For later reading.
No wonder I love this place.
Almost makes me want to make me a tinfoil hat just to fit in and feel at home.
-PJ
To the best of my knowledge, none of them have demonstrated any special knowledge that they know for a fact that there is nothing else going on. Lacking a demonstrably comprehensive grasp on all there is to know, the only thing left for these people is faith. They just simply believe the news stories, and unless they are told something different by govt propaganda outlets, their thinking stops.
If someone tries to assemble the observable facts, and tries to draw inferences from them, that might likely point to other causes behind the 9/11/01 tragedy, the list of posters below dismiss the excercise of such deductive reasoning, reasoning based upon history, and facts at hand, automatically. Obviously, they take it on faith that there is no possibility whatsoever that this horrible tragedy is just another piece to a growing and concluding puzzle of design, by people whose existence they cannot comprehend or understand, to shape the world into their image.
What amazes me is how people who really know very little about these matters can be so sure of themselves they got it right. Instead of probing, searching, asking questions, making new assumptions, and even going a little extra out of their way to excercise a little more common sense than usual, they shut off from their minds that which conflicts with what they believe. I can say one thing for sure -- nobody that posts on this site knows for sure what the h* is going on. But when we examine the effect of the tragedy, who gains, and who loses, in the context of 20th century economic and political history, as well as the very recent one that immediately preceeded this tragedy, I wonder how credible it is to instantly dismiss every thought, or notion, that this type of event is being at least capitalized on, if not altogether designed, by the primary beneficiaries of it after the fact?
Ultimately, the central purpose of the author's argument in post 1 is that if the USA is to be truly free, secure, and prosperous, it must disengage from anyone, and/or any government, and/or any foriegn entanglement that fits the above description. There are practical, legislative steps we can take as We The People to remove the curse over the USA. But if we bury our heads in the sand, and stick our fingers in our ears, refusing to even consider the possibility that very powerful people in the world are jerking the USA around, and that we'd be much better off without them doing so, what hope does the USA have going forward? None, as far as I can tell.
So for future reference, for all thinking people on this site, here is a partial list of ear pluggers who do not want to hear what you have to say. And if they are successful, they will have your thoughts banished from this site. Considering I have not seen them demonstrate any special talent in terms of analysis, or proferring an opinion, or making an expert, detailed opinion that proves conclusively that all parts of our author's argument have no basis of fact, I think it is fair to say that unless these posters can actually do so, for them to dismiss out of hand the premise we find alluded to in the above, ultimately, these posters lack credibility.
sinkspur
Hillary's Lovely Legs
dighton
Darth Reagan
Raging Against the machine
Impeach the Boy
Seeking the truth
tuesday afternoon
r9etb
F-117A
PSYCHO-FREEP
Poohbah
hflynn
KirkandBurke
Seeking the truth
Dataman
dighton
dubyaismypresident
Roebucks
headsonpikes
dead
Trident/Delta
_Jim
Patriot76
Alas Babylon!
Billthedrill
one_particular_harbour
Redleg Duke
Josiah6
roughrider
knews_hound
Ole Okie
mangomooli
The posters below have demonstrated they are receptive to thoughts and ideas that could lead them to a better understanding of what is going on:
freedomnews
It'salmosttolate
lavaroise
Aerial
DAGO
jamesbond
zadok
AMMON-CENTRIST
spoosman
Woodkirk
Dixielander
Political Junkie Too
Just on this thread alone, the numbers breakdown this way: 31 against any consideration of any thought or idea that is not repeated by the network news ten times a day and 12 that are hungry for the truth, and want to do something about it.
In percentage terms, that is 72% that are spoon fed and digest easily govt/media propaganda, and 28% who do not. And this is on a web site that has as its original stated purpose to see America restored to its original, constitutional foundation. Considering how that constitution has been so bastardized over the years, and what has happened to our country as a result, I think that is a great objective. But unless the 72/28 ratio gets flipped around, we'll not likely see Mssr. Robinson's goal achieved in our lifetimes. We'll end up being specatators of the nation's demise, and we'll watch it on TV, having ended up doing little or nothing to stop it, because the 72 refused to consider who the real enemies are, what their tactics are, and thus did not develop a gameplan for true American renewal and revival.
Of course, I already have talked about this long before the recent round of poop hit the fan. I just did not think the creeps would stoop as low as they have. I underestimated the determination they have to get their NWO moving forward, apparently at an accelerated rate.
The views expressed on this thread only help the process of getting the the truth. I have never stated at anytime in the past I have all the answers, but when I start reading comments like the above, and place them into the context of banished thought they only tend to strengthen the hypothesis, and not weaken it. I would like to get more names, and faces. But that will come in due course. If the 72/28 ratio starts to invert, then we might just get to the bottom of this mess, and chart a better course for the USA.
Lastly, I am happy to find myself in the 28. In my business, I have found that the crowd is usually wrong at critical junctures. We are at such a juncture, and things being the way they are, knowing that the odds of any of the 72 ever changing their disposition towards seeking, or desiring the truth (the 72 fairly, imo, representing the greater population in the USA), I think we can expect things to simply get far worse. If the twin towers collapsing into dust doesn't wake people up, I wonder what will?