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These days, it seems US Christians care more about Israel than American Jews do
Jewish World Review ^ | Dec. 4, 2001 | Jonathan Rosenblum

Posted on 12/04/2001 4:57:40 AM PST by SJackson

CONVENTIONAL wisdom attributes the broad popular support that Israel enjoys in the US to the power of the Jewish lobby and the intense support for Israel among American Jews. That conventional wisdom, however, misses a great deal.

Concern with Israel's security has long since ceased to preoccupy most American Jews. A recent survey by the Jewish Studies Center of CCNY concludes that of the 5.5 million Americans defined by sociologists as Jewish, half list their religion as "other" or "none."

Not surprisingly, ethnic identity of American Jews is declining rapidly. With little sense of themselves as Jews, most American Jews have little connection to one another, much less to Jews far away.

Even among those with more than a minimal Jewish identity, the Israel connection tends to be fickle. Witness the Reform movement's cancellation of programs last summer and the nearly 50% drop out rate among this year's rabbinical and cantorial students at the Conservative Shechter Institute. A mere 135 foreign students are registered for the Hebrew University's one-year program this year, less than a quarter of the number just two years ago.

When American Jews express opinions on Israel, they often appear to be completely out of touch with events here, and with the vast changes in Israeli public opinion over the past year. A recent survey conducted by Jewish groups close to the Clinton administration claims, mirable dictu, that 85% of American Jews want the US to return to the activist role of the Clinton years - 75% even if it leads to confrontations between Israel and the States.

While those numbers must be taken with a grain of salt, the remarkable thing is that they reflect absolutely no change in light of the events of the past year. The sole exception to this bleak general picture is the American Orthodox community. At the typical Israel Day Parade, a large majority of the participants will be wearing knitted kippot and long skirts. Already 20 years ago, historian Lucy Dawidowicz observed that only the Orthodox vote reflects great concern for Jewish interests, among which the security of Jews in Israel is paramount.

Nor is Orthodox support limited to sending checks. Despite a year of suicide bombings and terrorist attacks, there has actually been a slight increase in the enrollment of American post-high school students registered in yeshivas and seminaries in Israel.

Over 5,000 single young Orthodox Americans have come this year to study at these institutions, and thousands more young married men are continuing their yeshiva studies.

All this is not to say that the Jewish lobby does not play an important role in Washington, or that American Jewish philanthropy is not vital to Israel. AIPAC and other pro-Israel lobbying groups are feared, if not always loved, on Capitol Hill. Any politician with national ambitions must consider the heavy concentration of Jews in states rich in electoral votes, and the wildly disproportionate Jewish money contributed to campaigns.

But while Jewish votes assure that New York's senators will always be demonstrably pro-Israel, those votes cannot begin to explain the broad consensus of congressional support for Israel and the consistently positive feelings toward Israel of the general American population.

Many of Israel's staunchest supporters in Congress have traditionally come from states with small Jewish populations: e.g., Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas, Senator Tim Hutchinson of Arkansas, Attorney-General John Ashcroft, formerly a senator from Missouri; and House Majority Whip Tom DeLay. Far from being supported by the mainstream Jewish community, these men are often anathematized by Jewish groups for their social conservatism. On a host of issues, from school prayer to aid to educational tax vouchers to abortion, they consistently line up on the opposite side from the organized Jewish community.

These men support Israel not because of the mainstream Jewish community, but despite it. Their views are shaped by their own consciences and reflect the consensus of their overwhelmingly Christian constituents.

Devout Christians constitute the bedrock of American support for Israel. Such Christians number in the tens of millions. Unlike American Jews, they are not embarrassed by criticisms of Israel in certain left-wing circles, and do not cancel tours to Israel after each terrorist incident.

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The Jews of the Bible, however, bear little resemblance to those the average American Christian is likely to see on TV or read about, who are likely to be found at the forefront of every movement of sexual liberation.

Given the image of Jews as the least religious segment of the American population, Christians who take the Bible seriously are bound to ask themselves: Do the Jews of the Bible - the ones to whom the Land was promised - still exist?

Similar questions about the connection between Jews of today and those of the Bible are aroused by the apparent indifference of so many modern Jews to the sanctity of the Land and even to the most important historical sites of their religion, like Rachel's Tomb and the Temple Mount.

Israel's Christian friends are thrilled when they meet Jews who take seriously the Bible's commandments and who continue to cherish the Temple Mount as the place where the Divine Presence dwelt. A visible Orthodox community thus serves as an important corrective to Christian stereotypes about godless Jews.

Orthodox Jews are Israel's secret weapon in the war for American public opinion. They constitute, as a group, Israel's most committed supporters within the American Jewish community. And they serve as a crucial link between Israel and its strongest Christian supporters.

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1 posted on 12/04/2001 4:57:40 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Good analysis. For many (perhaps a majority) secularized Jews, a kind of mushy, left-wing ideology has replaced Judaism as their faith. There remain, however, positive and increasingly strong bonds between Orthodox Jews and conservative Christians.
2 posted on 12/04/2001 5:26:20 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: SJackson
Many years ago Arthur Krock said, "..The only difference between the platform of the Democrat Party and Reform Judaism is the Holidays." Liberalism is a religion and a major religion at that.
3 posted on 12/04/2001 6:44:53 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: SJackson
Well it would be darned nice of observant Jews to repudiate the work of the Frankfurt School.
4 posted on 12/04/2001 6:49:47 AM PST by junta
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To: SJackson
I'd say it's been that way for a while. I'm Christian and had to stand up for Israel a number of times while talking to American Jews. I'd have to say that I dislike the majority of American Jews that I have met. If we were to have a Jew-swap with Israel, the US would be that much stronger and Israel would fall within the week.
5 posted on 12/04/2001 1:39:18 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: SJackson
Not that it won't change but Prophecy rightly indicates that only a very small remnant in Israel will be true belivers in Jesus at the end. So this statement about American Christians being largely those who care about Israel is proportional to the dispersal worlwide who are the True Church as represented in Christian belief!
6 posted on 12/04/2001 1:59:37 PM PST by Windy-Dave
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To: SJackson
Bump
To read later
7 posted on 12/04/2001 2:04:05 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: SJackson
Good article. Many of us wonder why, with millions and millions of Christians worldwide, no one in the press thinks to ask Christians what they think about the destruction of their most Holy sites by Muslims in Israel. No outrage from the un-knowing press about sacred Judeo-Christian sites bulldozed and built over by Muslims, though Mohammed and his religion are 600 years younger than Christ, and over 3000 years younger than Abraham and Judaism. If the polls are correct and 80% of the press does not believe in God, we need some new journalists fast who know enough to ask the important questions and represent the majority of people in our nation.
9 posted on 12/04/2001 2:47:52 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Malesherbes
...amen.
10 posted on 12/04/2001 2:50:47 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: SJackson
These days, it seems US Christians care more about Israel than American Jews do.

Unfortunately this is somewhat true. But not entirely true.

11 posted on 12/04/2001 2:51:08 PM PST by dennisw
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To: SJackson
Are they busy counting money??
12 posted on 12/04/2001 2:51:35 PM PST by mbb bill
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To: SJackson
But I thought all those horrible fundamentalist Christians were all neo-Nazis and hated Jews and Israel? You mean what the SPLC tells me may not be the whole truth? I'm shocked...
13 posted on 12/04/2001 2:52:28 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: junta
..it would be darned nice of observant Jews to repudiate the work of the Frankfurt School

But they do.. Most orthodox congregations don't recognize Reform conversions and have little to do with their rabbinate, in general. The big Reform issue nowadays is getting Reform Judaism set up in a big way in Israel, but theyre not making much headway, and have little sympathy from the Orthodoxy here

Many of the "liberals with Jewish last names" will be virtually assimilated in the larger body politic two generations hence, so this "anomolous situation" should generally take care of itself, with time..

14 posted on 12/04/2001 3:09:09 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: SJackson
I think you're right. The liberal Jews think that Israel shouldn't defend itself. The liberal American Jew does a lot of harm to Israel.

The liberal Jews want to keep doves like Clinton and Gore in office. This compromises the security of the USA and Israel.

15 posted on 12/04/2001 3:18:05 PM PST by boycott
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To: Cleburne
But I thought all those horrible fundamentalist Christians were all neo-Nazis and hated Jews and Israel?

You may have lost me here. I don't think that. What are you saying?

16 posted on 12/04/2001 3:45:15 PM PST by SJackson
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To: Cleburne
Read your profile. Your interrests, Missippi, ok not KY or TN. Irish, not Scot. A question (not a joke or put down; see how fast you can find it).Do you know the source ot the term "redneck". Hint, Thomas Sowell or Univ of Ala.
17 posted on 12/04/2001 3:51:02 PM PST by SJackson
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To: boycott
Liberalism after a certain point, is a form of mental illness.
18 posted on 12/04/2001 9:34:30 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Michael2001
I'd say it's been that way for a while. I'm Christian and had to stand up for Israel a number of times while talking to American Jews. I'd have to say that I dislike the majority of American Jews that I have met. If we were to have a Jew-swap with Israel, the US would be that much stronger and Israel would fall within the week.

That and Florida and New York would become impregnable fortresses.

I can live that :) .... oh an Hollywood might be stretched pretty thin on talent.

19 posted on 12/04/2001 9:38:09 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Windy-Dave
Not that it won't change but Prophecy rightly indicates that only a very small remnant in Israel will be true belivers in Jesus at the end.
And there was a small remnant at the end of Jerusalem in 70 AD as prophecy indicated. The rest were harshly judged as never before for spilling the blood of the prophets.
So this statement about American Christians being largely those who care about Israel is proportional to the dispersal worlwide who are the True Church as represented in Christian belief!
I agree with this conclusion. There is a certain loyalty to those whom God chose to reveal the "Oracles of God".
Not to mention they are the more justified group over there trying to survive.
20 posted on 12/04/2001 9:40:48 PM PST by NATE4"ONE NATION"
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