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These days, it seems US Christians care more about Israel than American Jews do
Jewish World Review ^ | Dec. 4, 2001 | Jonathan Rosenblum

Posted on 12/04/2001 4:57:40 AM PST by SJackson

CONVENTIONAL wisdom attributes the broad popular support that Israel enjoys in the US to the power of the Jewish lobby and the intense support for Israel among American Jews. That conventional wisdom, however, misses a great deal.

Concern with Israel's security has long since ceased to preoccupy most American Jews. A recent survey by the Jewish Studies Center of CCNY concludes that of the 5.5 million Americans defined by sociologists as Jewish, half list their religion as "other" or "none."

Not surprisingly, ethnic identity of American Jews is declining rapidly. With little sense of themselves as Jews, most American Jews have little connection to one another, much less to Jews far away.

Even among those with more than a minimal Jewish identity, the Israel connection tends to be fickle. Witness the Reform movement's cancellation of programs last summer and the nearly 50% drop out rate among this year's rabbinical and cantorial students at the Conservative Shechter Institute. A mere 135 foreign students are registered for the Hebrew University's one-year program this year, less than a quarter of the number just two years ago.

When American Jews express opinions on Israel, they often appear to be completely out of touch with events here, and with the vast changes in Israeli public opinion over the past year. A recent survey conducted by Jewish groups close to the Clinton administration claims, mirable dictu, that 85% of American Jews want the US to return to the activist role of the Clinton years - 75% even if it leads to confrontations between Israel and the States.

While those numbers must be taken with a grain of salt, the remarkable thing is that they reflect absolutely no change in light of the events of the past year. The sole exception to this bleak general picture is the American Orthodox community. At the typical Israel Day Parade, a large majority of the participants will be wearing knitted kippot and long skirts. Already 20 years ago, historian Lucy Dawidowicz observed that only the Orthodox vote reflects great concern for Jewish interests, among which the security of Jews in Israel is paramount.

Nor is Orthodox support limited to sending checks. Despite a year of suicide bombings and terrorist attacks, there has actually been a slight increase in the enrollment of American post-high school students registered in yeshivas and seminaries in Israel.

Over 5,000 single young Orthodox Americans have come this year to study at these institutions, and thousands more young married men are continuing their yeshiva studies.

All this is not to say that the Jewish lobby does not play an important role in Washington, or that American Jewish philanthropy is not vital to Israel. AIPAC and other pro-Israel lobbying groups are feared, if not always loved, on Capitol Hill. Any politician with national ambitions must consider the heavy concentration of Jews in states rich in electoral votes, and the wildly disproportionate Jewish money contributed to campaigns.

But while Jewish votes assure that New York's senators will always be demonstrably pro-Israel, those votes cannot begin to explain the broad consensus of congressional support for Israel and the consistently positive feelings toward Israel of the general American population.

Many of Israel's staunchest supporters in Congress have traditionally come from states with small Jewish populations: e.g., Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas, Senator Tim Hutchinson of Arkansas, Attorney-General John Ashcroft, formerly a senator from Missouri; and House Majority Whip Tom DeLay. Far from being supported by the mainstream Jewish community, these men are often anathematized by Jewish groups for their social conservatism. On a host of issues, from school prayer to aid to educational tax vouchers to abortion, they consistently line up on the opposite side from the organized Jewish community.

These men support Israel not because of the mainstream Jewish community, but despite it. Their views are shaped by their own consciences and reflect the consensus of their overwhelmingly Christian constituents.

Devout Christians constitute the bedrock of American support for Israel. Such Christians number in the tens of millions. Unlike American Jews, they are not embarrassed by criticisms of Israel in certain left-wing circles, and do not cancel tours to Israel after each terrorist incident.

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The Jews of the Bible, however, bear little resemblance to those the average American Christian is likely to see on TV or read about, who are likely to be found at the forefront of every movement of sexual liberation.

Given the image of Jews as the least religious segment of the American population, Christians who take the Bible seriously are bound to ask themselves: Do the Jews of the Bible - the ones to whom the Land was promised - still exist?

Similar questions about the connection between Jews of today and those of the Bible are aroused by the apparent indifference of so many modern Jews to the sanctity of the Land and even to the most important historical sites of their religion, like Rachel's Tomb and the Temple Mount.

Israel's Christian friends are thrilled when they meet Jews who take seriously the Bible's commandments and who continue to cherish the Temple Mount as the place where the Divine Presence dwelt. A visible Orthodox community thus serves as an important corrective to Christian stereotypes about godless Jews.

Orthodox Jews are Israel's secret weapon in the war for American public opinion. They constitute, as a group, Israel's most committed supporters within the American Jewish community. And they serve as a crucial link between Israel and its strongest Christian supporters.

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To: boycott
I've often wondered why Jews vote for liberals, when it's always the Republicans who are the strongest supporters of Israel. Clinton was ready to give Israel away to arafat, yet the Jews love him and his wife.
21 posted on 12/04/2001 9:46:57 PM PST by lara
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To: SJackson
This is not news to freepers. We've known this for years.

:-)

22 posted on 12/04/2001 9:48:29 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: lara
You wanna know why? It's because the fundamentalist Christians are aligned with the republicans. Plus, most Jews don't surf freerepublic.com, lucianne.com etc, and believe it or not, aren't aware that Israel's largest backers are acutaly these same people. A little PR to that end might help.
23 posted on 12/04/2001 9:49:48 PM PST by College Repub
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To: lara
I'd also add that Most catholics vote Democrat despite Republicans being the PROLIFE party... Strange, eh?
24 posted on 12/04/2001 9:50:19 PM PST by College Repub
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To: Michael2001
When I was in Israel, my tour guide driver was so po'ed at the 3 NY Jews on the tour he apologized to me and said he was embarrassed about how American Jews act.

Israeli born Jews are quite different from their American counterparts.

25 posted on 12/04/2001 9:53:17 PM PST by seeker41
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To: College Repub
You're right. PR seems to be the main problem of Republicans. And as to your second point, as a Catholic, I have to lay some of the blame with the parish priests. It's sad to see so many Catholics voting for anti-life candidates.
26 posted on 12/04/2001 10:00:19 PM PST by lara
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To: lara
Liberalism is so prevalent in most Jewish circles, that if the Jewish lobby had the opportunity to affect Israeli policy, they would require confiscation of all guns in Israel and removal of armed soldiers from the streets ... after all we dont want to antagonize the situation.

But seriously many of my fellow Jews distrust the Palestinians as vehemently as anyone, its just that the DemocRAT mindset has been ingrained into them for over 50 years ... I cant explain it, and they dont even realize the contradiction they live with.

As much as stereotypes are abhorred, many still think of conservatives and Republicans in the old trite images that we constantly have to correct.

27 posted on 12/04/2001 10:01:01 PM PST by Optimist
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To: SJackson
IMO some of the people in Israeli politics (leftists) believe that the lobbying/campaign contributions power of Jews in the U.S. force the U.S. government to back up/protect Israel, when in fact and in truth the best thing Israel has going for it, other than the love of HaShem, is the Christians in the U.S. who know the truth about who the Jews are.
28 posted on 12/04/2001 10:03:36 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: Optimist
Optimist is on the mark. While there are many Jews who are progrssives (in fact many progressive movements are led by Jews), as a whole, I think most Jews are moderates. Why then 80% democrat support? Well, the fact that the C.C is aligned with the Republican Party is a huge factor. And most Jews are not aware that Chrsitians support the state of Israel (or the CC types)...it's simply not something known to them, I don't know how else I can put it...
29 posted on 12/04/2001 10:05:02 PM PST by College Repub
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To: SJackson
But while Jewish votes assure that New York's senators will always be demonstrably pro-Israel...

Or, insofar as Hillary kissed the terrorist's wife, and her husband pushed for Israel's suicide, I would reasonably conclude New York Jews pay little attention to FACTS, pertaining to the survival of Israel.

They are as poorly informed about reality, as your typical liberal voter, in spite of the generally accepted high intelligence of Jews, as a grouping.

In other words, the religion of liberalism trumps the welfare of their overseas co-religionists.

30 posted on 12/04/2001 10:08:29 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: SJackson
You might all be interested in the following post.

Jewish World Review On the Verge of Folding

31 posted on 12/04/2001 10:15:47 PM PST by Cacique
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To: College Repub
As bizarre as it seems to me, most Jews I know trust GOVERNMENT (as long as their guy is running it, but suggest the idea of Pat Buchanan being in charge and they freak-for example gun control, civil liberties, etc)

On the other hand, they DO NOT trust the religious right, fearing religious control of the government first and foremost.
As a result, Christian support of Israel is suspect in that an ulterior motive is suspected, although unspoken. In other words, WHY are the evil right-wing Christians wanting to help us?

I, on the other hand, distrust the power of government based on history 50 years ago ,or so, and believe that regardless of Christian "motives" for support of Israel, just because we dont see eye to eye on everything, we have similar goals with regard to the support and strength of Israel and its shrines.

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

some of my best friends are born again 8-)

32 posted on 12/04/2001 10:17:53 PM PST by Optimist
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To: Optimist
You don't have to explain. I understand exactly what you mean. My family, Iowa farmer going way back, always voted for the dems. But some of us realized the party changed and no longer represented our values. We found a new home with the Republican party. But there were some in my family, who shall remain nameless, who stuck with the dems, because that's just what they were and always had been. Good reason. I'm proud of my parents, though. After being life long dems, they were the first to switch.
33 posted on 12/04/2001 10:20:30 PM PST by lara
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To: SJackson
Unfortunately, in my experience, most American Jews are left-wingers, neo-communists, and at the very center of developing and promulgating politically correct, anti-cultural, anti-American, and anti-social dogma that is designed to denounce, defame, and heap criticism on the very society in which they live. In this way they are not unlike American blacks in that their target of hostility and resentment isn't the land, places, and peoples that originally sold them down the river and abused them horribly, but the host nation they now live in. This apparent ingratitude and animus has generated extreme resentment towards all Jews thanks to these individuals, and this has rebounded on Israelis, who paradoxically, most American Jews detest and regard as religious extremists and a foreign oddity, and thus expendible. This is how a filthy, lying, crooked, bitch like Hillary Clinton who loves Palestinians can be supported and voted in by American Jews. It's because they are Jews in name only, and not much else.
34 posted on 12/04/2001 10:37:49 PM PST by rebelsoldier
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To: Optimist
Jews have no reason to trust "government". Sure, America has been the best country for the Jews in all time. God Bless America. But other countries in the past have not been so good, and some have been downright evil towards them. Overall, Jewish people IMHO should have a natural distrust of government, and a natural love of freedom.

I think the liberal bent of the Jews is pretty 'old school' thought. They older Jews tend to be liberal because of things in the past. The younger Jews, and the open minded Jews, I think are starting to realize that the Democrats aren't what their parents told them they were. And men like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton being Democrat big wigs doesn't help. In 15 years I predict that the Jewish vote will be more balanced between Democrats and Republicans. Jews voted 40% for Ike and 35% for Reagan's second term -- and elected 2 Republican Mayors to NYC (a minor miracle). And that new book "BIAS" about the bias in the media I think is written by a Jew. So all is not lost, in fact I think there is reason to believe things are getting better.

As for 'distrust' of the "religious right", I think that is also old school. And some of it may have to do with the fact that Jews and Christians have different ideas in mind when it comes to the fate of Israel, and some have vastly different ideas.

35 posted on 12/04/2001 10:52:55 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
There was an article recently (I Forget the source...) about how the MAJORITY of Jews under 30 voted Republican in the last Presidential race...or identified themselves...I can't remember the exact details, but the bottom line was that the tides were changing
36 posted on 12/04/2001 11:02:44 PM PST by College Repub
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To: College Repub
It wouldn't suprise me. Generation X has many reason to dislike the me generation.
37 posted on 12/04/2001 11:10:47 PM PST by monkeyshine
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