Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Christine update (Steele blames Christine supporters for loss of children!)
CTI ^ | 1/02/02 | E. Steele

Posted on 03/02/2002 11:37:17 AM PST by RGSpincich

CTIpresents a
Press Release from E. Steele attorney at law
An Update

January 7, 2002

Fast forward to:

Re: Brian and Ruth Christine & Oregon's Legalized Child Theft Ring -

Brian and Ruth still sit in jail in Oregon, held on what I consider to be exorbitantly unconstitutional bail in excess of half million dollars each. They just keep adding to the criminal charges, thus the statutory bail just keeps rising, due to each charge. This is what is known as "throwing the book at them."

The criminal actions have now been deferred into mid-2002, and are being consolidated. This is for the alleged kidnapping (I refuse to dignify the taking of one's own children as true kidnapping) at gunpoint. The gun is the real problem. Oregon's Measure Eleven minimum sentencing requirements really mandate an exceptionally stiff penalty against both parents. This is the result of so-called "tough on crime" initiatives - they set too wide a net and ensnare those, like Brian and Ruth, who should be dealt with in understanding and with leniency.

The termination-of-parental-rights trial (about the three oldest girls) is set for late next month and looks bad. The only bright spot is that Ruth's parents almost certainly will be the ones getting the three girls. They will then take them back home to England, of course.(Note-The Christines agreed to relinqish their parental rights in mid January. The necessary papers have been signed and the three oldest girls are expected to be adopted by Ruth's parents.)

Brian's public defender made an unfortunate statement to the press about cutting a deal and precipitated a flood of vituperation from the people in Grants Pass who were advising the Christines all along. They loudly accused all the Christine lawyers, including myself, of selling Brian and Ruth down the river in typical lawyer fashion. Sigh. But for those people advising this young couple, they wouldn't be in jail today, with their children living in two different states. They would be an intact family unit somewhere.

I agree that the legal system, especially in Oregon, is abysmal and needs a radical overhaul. However, I am not willing to sacrifice Brian and Ruth to that objective, particularly since it would be a futile sacrifice. Those people in Grants Pass really need to figure out that they are a part of the problem in some of these cases down there; an example of creating your own opposition.

About that "deal." Brian's case is so over-the-top that a deal seems pretty unlikely; he likely will be better off taking his chances with a jury. Ruth is a somewhat different story, since she did not actually wield any weapons and was not present when that happened, though conspiracy law sees her charged with the same offenses as Brian. A deal for her might be the best approach. Time will tell. A deal about the termination issue, especially since that is heard by a judge without a jury, seems the most likely and is viable only because of Ruth's parents being likely foster parents for the girls.

I'll keep you posted on this case, too, but as I said before: this is a really tough case to get a good result in, from here on out. We did well in getting the two youngest girls into the hands of Brian's mother, but that was because we were able to work within courts in other jurisdictions (Indiana and Montana). Oregon is furious over those two defeats and has pulled out all the stops on the remaining Christine cases, which are all solely within its own jurisdiction.

The contributions from many of the good people on this list (bless you, you know who you are) enabled us to pay for attorney fees and court costs in both Montana and Indiana, including hiring an Indiana law firm to finish the guardianship of Abbey Rose there. We fell a little short, but I made that up out of my own pocket and am confident that we will still see donations that will cover everything before we are done.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180181-188 next last
To: Roscoe
Teasing--mocking them too! Hope you get it back tenfold--soon!
161 posted on 03/07/2002 12:37:58 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 160 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
$5,000. Their martyrs hold little value for them now.
162 posted on 03/07/2002 12:42:03 AM PST by Roscoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies]

To: Roscoe
In Turkey their going to make movies about our political justice system---you could get a starring role---whipmaster!
163 posted on 03/07/2002 12:51:22 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: Roscoe
Do you know what the "f". Christian is for? Maybe I take it too seriously!
164 posted on 03/07/2002 12:57:40 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
Those who molest children and parents are the lowlifes. The Bible says it is better to not have been born ...

Well, actually the Bible doesn't mention parents; it limits this admonishment to CHILDREN. And if parents abuse children, THEY are in for it. So don't come spouting about these "innocent" parents who injured their children and caused them to go without food or water for days at a time.

But I've noticed the more "fundamentalist" the Bible-thumper (present company included), the more they insist on bibilical inerrancy, the more they wrest the scriptures to include things it never said.

Irony.

165 posted on 03/07/2002 3:33:54 AM PST by Illbay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

To: Roscoe
A little sympathy for Ruth from the judge, not so Brian.

Note to Brian : Do not opt for a bench trial.

166 posted on 03/07/2002 4:03:18 AM PST by RGSpincich
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

To: Illbay
How about waco--oc....adults--chidren---what's the difference?? War on families--"cults". Maybe if the Christines were hippies they would have put them on welfare--voter registration cards---food stamps and made them head start teachers--bus drivers---school crossing guards instead of extirmination camp road kill!

Don't you think this will be on frontline---60 minutes...only if they were lesbians!

167 posted on 03/07/2002 6:04:45 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian;Roscoe;Illbay
Do you know what the "f". Christian is for?

"faux" would be my guess...

168 posted on 03/07/2002 6:09:31 AM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
...only if they were lesbians-witches---then you would support them!

f is Fletcher and you are going overboard(davey jones locker)with the rest of the scum of the earth!

169 posted on 03/07/2002 6:17:39 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 168 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
...only if they were lesbians-witches---then you would support them!

You have made a false statement here. Please retract it.

f is Fletcher and you are going overboard(davey jones locker)with the rest of the scum of the earth!

That sounds like you are threatening me, sonny-boy.

Don't even think about trying it.

170 posted on 03/07/2002 6:39:22 AM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
Wynona Ryder, shoplifter?

How about Osama bin Laden? No difference.

171 posted on 03/07/2002 6:49:19 AM PST by Illbay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
My guess is the f is for "f@cked up." Since you are raving incoherently it could also be fathead, forked tongue, fonie, false, flatulent, former, fanatic, fraudulent, foolish, farcical, or feeble-minded.
172 posted on 03/07/2002 6:54:51 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: justshutupandtakeit
Or his grade.
173 posted on 03/07/2002 9:32:32 AM PST by Roscoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 172 | View Replies]

To: Roscoe
I wonder if Brian is enough of a man to try to take the heat for his wife?

Looks possible now from the Douglas County prosecution's standpoint with the judge tipping his hand and greatly reducing her bail. It would make sense to let her plead to a misdemeanor and give her time served. If and only if Brian pleads to a "measure 11" felony and gets 7.5 years. The child abuse charges in Josephine County would have to be addressed also.

174 posted on 03/07/2002 9:43:24 AM PST by RGSpincich
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 140 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
We see here our Noah building His wondrous ark for the salvation of His household. We see its beginning, middle, and end. We see its different parts, external and internal; each plank as it is laid, each nail as it is driven in. Its form is perfect; its structure in all details is complete; its strength and stability are altogether divine. Yet with what labour and amid what mockings is this ark constructed! Amid what strong crying and tears, what blood and agony, is it completed! Thus, however, we are assured of its... perfection---and security. Through the deep waters of this evil world it floats in peace. No storm can overset it, no billow break it, nor so much as loosen one of its planks. They who have fled to it as a hiding-place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest, are everlastingly safe."
175 posted on 03/07/2002 10:11:13 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies]

To: justshutupandtakeit
f is Fletcher and you are going overboard(davey jones locker)with the rest of the scum of the earth!
176 posted on 03/07/2002 10:15:14 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 172 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
And the relevance of this screed is?
177 posted on 03/07/2002 10:19:15 AM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
Do you think God is on the side of devils?
178 posted on 03/07/2002 10:27:00 AM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
No. So you have no reason to think He's on YOUR side, or on the side of parents who injure their children.
179 posted on 03/07/2002 10:32:14 AM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 178 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
Your opinion on anything is irrelevent to me since you are clearly incapable of recognizing great evil. Pretending that the State did not act correctly with these lowlife nutballs is not Christian in any sense. Hell will be filled with such as the Christines and their moronic defenders not those of us who understand that Christ's regard for children was ignored and trampled upon by the Christines and their defenders.

Such morons would rather see their children dead than alive and protected by the State. My first guess as to the meaning of the f. is way more appropriate.

180 posted on 03/07/2002 10:35:12 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 176 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180181-188 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson