Posted on 03/02/2002 11:37:17 AM PST by RGSpincich
CTIpresents a
Press Release from E. Steele attorney at law
An Update
January 7, 2002
Fast forward to:
Re: Brian and Ruth Christine & Oregon's Legalized Child Theft Ring -
Brian and Ruth still sit in jail in Oregon, held on what I consider to be exorbitantly unconstitutional bail in excess of half million dollars each. They just keep adding to the criminal charges, thus the statutory bail just keeps rising, due to each charge. This is what is known as "throwing the book at them."
The criminal actions have now been deferred into mid-2002, and are being consolidated. This is for the alleged kidnapping (I refuse to dignify the taking of one's own children as true kidnapping) at gunpoint. The gun is the real problem. Oregon's Measure Eleven minimum sentencing requirements really mandate an exceptionally stiff penalty against both parents. This is the result of so-called "tough on crime" initiatives - they set too wide a net and ensnare those, like Brian and Ruth, who should be dealt with in understanding and with leniency.
The termination-of-parental-rights trial (about the three oldest girls) is set for late next month and looks bad. The only bright spot is that Ruth's parents almost certainly will be the ones getting the three girls. They will then take them back home to England, of course.(Note-The Christines agreed to relinqish their parental rights in mid January. The necessary papers have been signed and the three oldest girls are expected to be adopted by Ruth's parents.)
Brian's public defender made an unfortunate statement to the press about cutting a deal and precipitated a flood of vituperation from the people in Grants Pass who were advising the Christines all along. They loudly accused all the Christine lawyers, including myself, of selling Brian and Ruth down the river in typical lawyer fashion. Sigh. But for those people advising this young couple, they wouldn't be in jail today, with their children living in two different states. They would be an intact family unit somewhere.
I agree that the legal system, especially in Oregon, is abysmal and needs a radical overhaul. However, I am not willing to sacrifice Brian and Ruth to that objective, particularly since it would be a futile sacrifice. Those people in Grants Pass really need to figure out that they are a part of the problem in some of these cases down there; an example of creating your own opposition.
About that "deal." Brian's case is so over-the-top that a deal seems pretty unlikely; he likely will be better off taking his chances with a jury. Ruth is a somewhat different story, since she did not actually wield any weapons and was not present when that happened, though conspiracy law sees her charged with the same offenses as Brian. A deal for her might be the best approach. Time will tell. A deal about the termination issue, especially since that is heard by a judge without a jury, seems the most likely and is viable only because of Ruth's parents being likely foster parents for the girls.
I'll keep you posted on this case, too, but as I said before: this is a really tough case to get a good result in, from here on out. We did well in getting the two youngest girls into the hands of Brian's mother, but that was because we were able to work within courts in other jurisdictions (Indiana and Montana). Oregon is furious over those two defeats and has pulled out all the stops on the remaining Christine cases, which are all solely within its own jurisdiction.
The contributions from many of the good people on this list (bless you, you know who you are) enabled us to pay for attorney fees and court costs in both Montana and Indiana, including hiring an Indiana law firm to finish the guardianship of Abbey Rose there. We fell a little short, but I made that up out of my own pocket and am confident that we will still see donations that will cover everything before we are done.
"Live simply?" Right.
We've camped all over the US, most of Canada and Mexico and have seen a number of converted school buses in campgrounds. "Spartan" is more like it. About half had the means to make hot water (a hot water heater); ditto for pressurized water (if not, one hauls water from the campsite's water outlet or hauls water from a communal faucet--for hot water, the water's heated on the stove). About 1/4 did not have had running water or bathroom facilities (toilet rather than a portapotty). That means going to the campground's bathroom for its usual purpose and for showers. Most had a stove--sometimes a cooktop, usually 2 burner, sometimes with an oven. About 2/3rds had a refrigerator--the rest used coolers. Usually, they had a dinette for an eating area. If the bus was a 70 footer, it has room for bunks for the kids and a separate area for the adult's bed, otherwise, they all slept together in one communal area. If they remember, they put in a closet, but that's not seen too often. Heaters were another very optional device. Converted buses have their function, but they really aren't made for long-term living aboard unless a lot of workmanship, effort and money goes into them to make them habitable for more than a vacation, hunting season (their use in our area) or long holiday weekend.
I'd be different if the bus was something like a Bluebird (a very spiffy RV on a diesel pusher). But the converted school buses I've seen are not even close to that category. Unless one is willing to put in a lot of money and a lot of time, the conversion is, at best, crude.
So much for the ballyhoo here on FR about "government adoption rackets selling children away from their parents."
It has been known ever since it became a certainty the Christine's would lose their kids that her parents were going to get them. That didn't matter to the knee-jerk agendized.
Aw.
You ignore the damage done to these children, the physical scars as well as the emotional.
Like any abortionist, you would sacrifice these children to the Moloch of your satanic agenda.
All I can say is "you lost. Good."
Looks are deceiving....see any steam driven trains in Lahaina.....off the Honoapi'lani Highway?
All the time on the FR!
The FR-state nambla/soviet train of america---
all the whacko minorities weird rights rat--kkkinky nuts!
Reminds me of the wolves watching the herd---one slip-stumble...smell of blood-fun and the pack is renolentless!
43 posted on 3/3/02 5:36 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by Illbay
The one that molests children--parents?
Heartlander said there is an "aclu--700 club"---sorta the SS of intellectual-social elites watchdogs---reno-nazis!
The Christines got suckered by people who thought they could use them for their own purposes. Now that they're no longer useful to the Grant's Pass Glee Club, they've been abandoned. Reread Edgar Steele's statement. He's not exactly a fan of the mainstream legal system. Even he's disgusted by your pals in the GPGC.
The wolves were the ones who encouraged the Christines to commit kidnapping and robbery.
54 posted on 3/3/02 10:42 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by Roscoe
30 wrongs don't make a right!
Who instigated this travesty---parents-children vs. an out of control state!
Wrong!
parent vs. child - Bernie Conrad and others say the Christines used starvation as a form of discipline. The doctors say they were way under normal weights for their ages and heights. Not to mention an alleged skull fracture to the youngest. The evidence is so overwhelming that the Christines have terminated their own parental rights prior to a hearing on the matter.
"Pulling it all together, what we have right here in our own country are all of the ingredients necessary for a totalitarian police state. We have a federal government that nobody in his right mind would trust, which lies to us incessantly, uses illegal force against its citizens with impunity, and collaborates with totalitarian dictators under cover of a massive propaganda campaign conducted by our supposedly free press. Our major information media are dominated by closet totalitarians who pay lip service to democracy while covertly promoting the interests of communist despots. The political opposition is made up largely of cowards who are so intimidated by our totalitarian propaganda media they are unable to offer effective resistance to even the most egregious violations of civil liberties by the corrupt Clinton regime. They have become, in the fullest sense of the term, Weimar Republicans. And finally, we have that which makes it all possible, a listless, docile, dumbed-down public who gape mindlessly at all of the above phenomena without the slightest glimmer of comprehension, and prattle the latest propaganda cliches dumped into their empty heads by the mainstream media."
"The Elian affair has truly given us a glimpse into the abyss of tyranny. The message that comes through loud and clear is that the system isn't working. The question that remains to be answered is whether we still possess the intelligence and fortitude necessary to fix it."
Edward Zehr(deceased...Nov--2001) can(not) be reached at ezehr@capaccess.org
Published in the May. 22, 2000 issue of The Washington Weekly(defunct)
Copyright 2000 The Washington Weekly.
Now Free Access to All Stories at http://www.federal.com
The FSSC got trumped by the USSC and PUBLIC OPINION-----PERCEPTION trumps everything!
537 votes---all good crimes start out un--winnable/solved!
Read this... one---some times God--the Bible tells us...the supporters to be patient---WITNESSES!
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