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Ken Starr to lead court battle against CFR
AP VIA Yahoo.com ^ | 03-21-02 | By JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 03/21/2002 8:01:13 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom

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To: Howlin
He won't be prosecuting anybody; he'll be making the "government's" argument about this bill.

Who better to make the arguments than someone on our side ?

21 posted on 03/21/2002 8:49:39 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
I wonder if we are watching smoke and mirrors, and this is all really about raising the ceiling on hard money contributions. They pass a bill they know won't hold up under the scrutiny of the Supreme Court who will strike the provision of the bill that interfers with free speech.

The politicans look like they have tried to do something about CFR when really all they have done is come away with the ceiling raised on hard money, alot of lawyers make money and a name for themselves, and politicians get to roll back legislation, that was like pulling teeth to get passed in the first place, when the limits were first enacted.

22 posted on 03/21/2002 8:51:09 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: VRWC_minion
Who better to make our argument than somebody who doesn't believe in it......LOL.
23 posted on 03/21/2002 8:51:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Ashcroft HAS to defend the stupid law....watch the rats blame him when they loss...love to see him appoint an outside counsel from the rat party to represent the government
24 posted on 03/21/2002 8:52:49 PM PST by bybybill
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To: MissAmericanPie
You forgot the best part: The United States Supreme Court tells John McCain he wrote, sponsored, and helped pass an unconstitutional bill. :-)

If the parts that I think will be struck ARE, in fact, struck, the bill will be a gold mine for the GOP.

25 posted on 03/21/2002 8:52:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
he has Attorney General John Ashcroft's assurance that the Justice Department would defend the statute's constitutionality.

Somebody pass the Rolaids.....

26 posted on 03/21/2002 8:53:42 PM PST by Humidston
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To: MissAmericanPie
One other thing: maybe once and for all they will SHUT UP about CFR.
27 posted on 03/21/2002 8:53:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Where do we send money to fund the anti-CFR effort? This is political contribution #1 for me.
28 posted on 03/21/2002 8:59:11 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: MissAmericanPie
I wonder if we are watching smoke and mirrors, and this is all really about raising the ceiling on hard money contributions. They pass a bill they know won't hold up under the scrutiny of the Supreme Court who will strike the provision of the bill that interfers with free speech.

The politicans look like they have tried to do something about CFR when really all they have done is come away with the ceiling raised on hard money, alot of lawyers make money and a name for themselves, and politicians get to roll back legislation, that was like pulling teeth to get passed in the first place, when the limits were first enacted.

I can think of no better example of congressional/executive/judicial "sausage-making".

29 posted on 03/21/2002 9:06:41 PM PST by Cloud William
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To: Howlin
Your right...can`t wait to see McCrazy after the Supremes say he`s nuts...Chris Matthews will want to impeach them...hehehehehehehehehehehehe
30 posted on 03/21/2002 9:18:38 PM PST by bybybill
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To: exit82
Starr couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag.

During the Monica scandals, I don't think Starr lost a court case, especially when it came to those parts that went to SCOTUS.

IOW, he didn't lose in court of a law, he lost in the court of public opinion.

31 posted on 03/21/2002 9:21:29 PM PST by Dane
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To: takenoprisoner
The fix is in folks. Why else would they hire a loser?

Tell me which cases Starr has lost in a court of law, especially SCOTUS.

32 posted on 03/21/2002 9:25:04 PM PST by Dane
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Is CFR a Pickering(a sacrificial lamb)?

Try this perspective: A somewhat high-profile case that is sure to get substantial media attention(especially with all the howling and moaning that will go on after it is ruled unconstitutional), where Bush compromised with the Dems and is now defending something he isn't 100% happy with. The key sentence to me was about Ashcroft assuring that the Administration would defend the law. Sounds reminiscent of the confirmation hearings regarding if he would defend abortion laws. So by signing the bill and taking the position of defending it(with Ashcroft high-profile), this will be a visible display to the public that Bush and Ashcroft will enforce the laws(sadly ironic, eh?) irregardless of his personal views. Attempts to gain the trust of pro-abortion soccer moms in the Northeastern suburbs, defuses some of the 'evil' stereotype of his conservative appointments, yet low-risk in that the USSC will likely rule the worst parts unconstitutional.

Could this be part of the administration's thinking?

33 posted on 03/21/2002 9:25:17 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Remember this CFR screen started when the dims Chinese money scandal hit. Media happy to help as usual. The S.C. shot most of it down before, likely will again. Leaving only the "no cntrolling legal authority" part intact. Remember?
34 posted on 03/21/2002 9:33:37 PM PST by Waco
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To: Howlin
Bush also told DeLay at the beginning of his presidential term that he was on his side and that his door was always opened. I think it has permanently slammed shut in my hero, Tom DeLay's face and the faces of all constitution-loving people.
35 posted on 03/21/2002 9:37:45 PM PST by RamsNo1
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To: Dane
He majored on the minor. He choked on the Foster murder. Nothing came out about campaign finance scandals. Whitewater went nowhere. He ducked out to Pepperdine, when the going got tough. Broadderick spilled her guts for nothing.Tripp was thrown to the wolves.

A nice guy, but I'm still not sure if he was merely naive or a shill for a cover-up. He was so mealy mouthed and non-committal during the whole time he was a prosecutor I wondered whose side he was on. Either way, he gets a vote of no confidence from me.

The media and the Dems will have a field day with this one. I can hear them getting revved up now. He is a figure that generates a stereotype that will kill this whole effort. Since I can't believe anyone could be stupid enough to have him as the lead in anything this important, I have to conclude that this is by design. If so, it will soon be time for the Second American Revolution.

36 posted on 03/21/2002 9:38:05 PM PST by exit82
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To: RamsNo1
Oh, I see....you're mad at Bush because YOUR HERO couldn't get his votes in?

You do realize exactly HOW the government works, don't you?

The leaders of the GOP couldn't find their own butts with a flashlights. I surely wouldnt' admit Tom Delay was a hero of mine.

37 posted on 03/21/2002 9:42:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: exit82
The media and the Dems will have a field day with this one.

Really? I highly doubt it. People could care less about the machinations about a boring court case. No Monica, no thong, no Presidency hanging in the balance, etc. etc.

BTW, can you tell me which cases Starr has actually lost in a court of law.

38 posted on 03/21/2002 9:49:01 PM PST by Dane
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Ken Starr ?....Fugetaboutit...
39 posted on 03/21/2002 9:49:12 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Howlin
We can hope they shut up. Politicans never shut up.
40 posted on 03/21/2002 10:04:24 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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