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Kill a Jew for Allah
National Review ^ | 3/22/02 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 03/22/2002 6:09:26 AM PST by vrwc54

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To: ThreeOfSeven
Fine. Let Israel and the Arabs conclude a just peace and then neither side will be able to use the conflict as an excuse for neglecting other problems.

I am in favor of this as well. Lets get rid of the excuses, and see who the real animals are.. I know who I would have my money on..

101 posted on 03/22/2002 9:42:00 AM PST by Paradox
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To: vrwc54
I don't understand why there is such hate. These people are not human - they are animals that believe all Jews should be killed...........
Did you see this? This University has a link to Hamas Website on their Website..............
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HAMAS-IMPORTANT FREEPING ACTION NEEDED

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102 posted on 03/22/2002 9:42:18 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: BenF
I also forgot to say: You are proving my point by asking that Islam is full of nonsense, but Judaism is not? That also indicates that you are not Christian either, otherwise, you would have said: Islam is bad but Christianity and Judaism are good? The reality is, ALL are good, just don’t take them too seriously. These are bunch of desert people writing codes of conducts that depicts their life thousands of years ago. Good, that was needed to compel people to be nice to one another. Now people must learn to coexist, and reject the sense of superiority, or the idea that God loves more than you, or you going to burn if you don't believe!!!
103 posted on 03/22/2002 9:46:48 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
One of the prayers from the Jewish Talmud for boys to pray, thank god I was born a boy, not a girl, or a slave, or a retard?

Not at all. There is a prayer in the siddur, the daily prayer book, thanking G-D for not having been born with the responsibilities of a woman (much greater and of a more serious consequence than those of a man), a slave (obvious intent), or a heathen (again, obvious intent).

Now I am not a scholar in the Jewish religion, but that is what I read somewhere a few years ago.

Perhaps what you read was incorrect or you remember incorrectly.

I imagine, even if that is correct, Jewish believers are too smart to keep hanging on such stupidity.

Hopefully, I have educated you as to the reality of what is said.

Other things in the old testament deal with how unclean people who work in funeral businesses, or women who have their period,

Again, you are incorrect. There are Jews in the funeral business. What you are referring to is the ritual cleaning procedure which Jews follow after contact with a dead body. While it is a ritual, the health benefits should be obvious. Similarly, the prohibition of intercourse during a woman's menses also has health benefits.

or having yeast in bread,

I have to assume that you have no idea what you're talking about on this one since I have no idea. The closest guess I can make is that you may be referring to Matzoh.

....Now most of my Jewish friends do not take any of these things seriously.

That they do not take "these things" seriously has no meaning. If they are as ignorant as you are regarding Jewish culture, I don't blame them for not taking Judaism seriously.

In the same way Christianity is loaded with lots of nonsense that modern Christians learned to ignore. For example, more than 50% of Christian Women would not outlaw abortion despite of the bible commanding from them “do not kill”!

Again, your ignorance is showing. While I cannot speak to Christianity or the stand on abortion, the commandment is "Thou shalt not commit murder". It is substantially different from "killing".

I recommend you learn more about a subject before you post.

104 posted on 03/22/2002 9:56:53 AM PST by BenF
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To: crystalk
Can you tell me where Christians were specifically told to eliminate Muslims?
105 posted on 03/22/2002 10:03:27 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Wonder Warthog
My concept goes like this: let us say I open a church, I preach about Jesus, but the guy across the street has a church too, and he preaches about Jesus too. How do I retain my followers, or even increase my market share. If I say to my parish that the guy across the street has a good church and his preaching is just as good, I will be shooting myself in the foot?

Therefore, by definition, I must tell my people that they are special, they are not as stupid as these guys who believe that God is a cow! These other idiots who worship statues of Mary? or these Jews will never go to heaven without Jesus, or we Jews are God chosen people, even though most of us don't even believe in him?

I hope I am making myself clear? I am simply saying that religion if taken too seriously is like the soccer fans who take their stupid game so seriously that they kill each other if they loose a game!

106 posted on 03/22/2002 10:07:19 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
You are proving my point by asking that Islam is full of nonsense, but Judaism is not?

I never said "full of nonsense". Islam, in particular Suha 9, is full of admonitions about the Jews. You will not find anything similar in Judaism. That's all.

That also indicates that you are not Christian either, otherwise, you would have said: Islam is bad but Christianity and Judaism are good?

I am not saying one is good and one is bad. I am a Jew and thus more familiar with Judaism than other faiths. However, I have read the Koran and Christian scriptures. While I will not make any good vs. bad judgements, I will tell you what I've read in the Koran and let you draw your own conclusions. If you don't want to believe me, read it yourself. That being said, Judaism is a good religion for Jews. Whether the other faiths are good for their adherents is not a judgement I am willing to make.

The reality is, ALL are good, just don’t take them too seriously.

Since you have already proven your ignorance of Judaism, how can you say that it is good? You know little about it. That being the case, how can you advise not to take it seriously? Shouldn't you know what you are talking about before offering such advice?

These are bunch of desert people writing codes of conducts that depicts their life thousands of years ago.

Wrong again. I realize that you don't believe in G-D or that He gave Laws to the Jewish people, but whether you believe or not, these "codes", e.g., not to commit murder, were written for all time, not just "thousands of years ago".

Good, that was needed to compel people to be nice to one another.

People still need to be compelled to be nice to one another.

Now people must learn to coexist, and reject the sense of superiority, or the idea that God loves more than you, or you going to burn if you don't believe!!!

Because you said so? No thanks. Judaism teaches that Jews are not superior to anyone and that G-D does not "love us more" simply because we're Jews. And it certainly doesn't teach that we are going to "burn" if we don't believe. As to what the other faiths teach...well, you should study those faiths first and advise later because before you begin to advise others you really should know what you're talking about first. You obviously don't.

107 posted on 03/22/2002 10:08:18 AM PST by BenF
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To: philosofy123
How do I retain my followers, or even increase my market share. If I say to my parish that the guy across the street has a good church and his preaching is just as good, I will be shooting myself in the foot?

From what I've read about Christianity, "retaining followers" and "increasing market share" for one particular church is not what it's SUPPOSED to be about.

Therefore, by definition, I must tell my people that they are special, they are not as stupid as these guys who believe that God is a cow! These other idiots who worship statues of Mary? or these Jews will never go to heaven without Jesus, or we Jews are God chosen people, even though most of us don't even believe in him?

But that's not the way it's supposed to work. Granted, there are those who do these things. So are we to blame the faith for those who misinterpret it - even if they do so deliberately? How do you feel about a Mother Theresa, for example?

I hope I am making myself clear? I am simply saying that religion if taken too seriously is like the soccer fans who take their stupid game so seriously that they kill each other if they loose a game!

Religion is supposed to be a way of life, not a game. Your analogy is seriously flawed.

108 posted on 03/22/2002 10:13:10 AM PST by BenF
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To: philosofy123
Let's say I am a Marxist or some other species of Materialist, utterly convinced of my own correctness. I suppose any argument I made would be based in Materialism and would presuppose the importance of things like "market share."
109 posted on 03/22/2002 10:17:20 AM PST by cicero's_son
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To: veronica
ping!!
110 posted on 03/22/2002 10:20:20 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Dec31,1999
Shhhhhhhhhh.... these are supposed to be top secret scriptures from the Surah that we arent supposed to know...
111 posted on 03/22/2002 10:33:51 AM PST by smith288
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To: Dec31,1999
Shhhhhhhhhh.... these are supposed to be top secret scriptures from the Surah that we arent supposed to know...
112 posted on 03/22/2002 10:33:51 AM PST by smith288
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To: philosofy123
No, if there is two churches preaching the same word of Jesus and God, then they are both celebrated. It has NOTHING to do with market share.
113 posted on 03/22/2002 10:38:02 AM PST by smith288
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To: Dog Gone
In the year 1095, and subsequent years, when Pope Urban II and his successors preached and sent out, the First Crusade.

By extension, since Christians spiritually are adoptees into Israel, even those who are not partly of Jewish descent anyway, also share in the command to have war against Amelek from one generation to another, and now in the End of Days at last we should have the power to completely eliminate him.

The End of Days began in (2240-295), or 1945. That was the exact year in which the means of our at last getting rid of Amelek became available to us. If we had had more faith, and been willing to fight the Lord's battles, we would have used it immediately and the world would have been a much better place today!

Praise the Lord, and pass the nukes.

btw, the expression "end of days"=ketz ha-yamim, has numerical value of 295 as all Hebrew words & phrases do have a numerical equivalent. This is subtracted from 2240, when the calendar ends, to give the Gregorian date when the EOD began.

114 posted on 03/22/2002 11:25:13 AM PST by crystalk
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To: philosofy123
I think a valid case can be made that Islamic theocracies are inherently backward and that unless fundamental changes are made with respect to education, individual rights, democracy, etc that they will make only limited and incremental advancements and more likely will fall farther behind.

Read the Bill of Rights, the foundation of course, which is based upon biblical Christian values, and see if the equivalent exists in Islam. IMHO, either the Muslim people insist on a Renaissance or someone external will force it upon them. Unfortunately the later is more likely, and the pain to all will be quite high.

115 posted on 03/22/2002 11:46:43 AM PST by schu
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To: crystalk
Well, thanks for that explanation. I doubt many Christians today feel that they're obliged to follow the admonition of a Pope who has been dead for a thousand years, but some might keep track of those sorts of things. Of course, looking in the Bible for specific admonitions to eliminate moslems would be pointless since Islam didn't arise until several hundred years after it was written.

I'm not much into eschatology, although I'm passingly familiar with the EOD line of reasoning. I think using it to argue that Harry Truman should have nuked the Islamic world in 1945 is a bit of a stretch, but we've already established that you and I aren't really in agreement in general on this matter.

I do thank you for your explanation, however.

116 posted on 03/22/2002 11:54:19 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
47 or 48 would have been nice.
117 posted on 03/22/2002 12:15:14 PM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
LOL. You never give up.
118 posted on 03/22/2002 12:17:16 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: philosofy123
"I am simply saying that religion if taken too seriously is like the soccer fans who take their stupid game so seriously that they kill each other if they loose a game!"

You can take any religion as seriously as you like, but it will only become dangerous when it manages to garner sufficient worldly power to exercise the prerogatives of a state (i.e. armed might). As long as the state remains neutral toward all religions, there is no problem--as soon as ANY ONE religion gains sufficient power to suppress others, the problems start.

119 posted on 03/22/2002 12:43:34 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: anniegetyourgun
"he worships himself"--my guess, he just worships what goes on between his ears, all day long, the constant soliloquy that'd drive anyone listening bonkers...

In the interest of full disclosure, I dated a philo major briefly in college.

120 posted on 03/22/2002 12:59:45 PM PST by Mamzelle
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