Posted on 03/22/2002 6:09:26 AM PST by vrwc54
The Israeli settlements are, according to the Fourth Geneva Convention, illegal colonies of an occupying power. Israel has used security for the settlements as an excuse to set up an oppressive apartheid-like system of controls over the Arab population of the West Bank and Gaza. The Israeli settlers are part-and-parcel of the barbaric Israeli occupation. Jews who want to live peacefully among Arabs in the West Bank or Gaza should apply to live there as ordinary residents, subject to local laws.
Communism IS a "religion" of sorts (along with liberalism, and most of the Democrat party platform). Theirs is a religion where God has been replaced by "the good of the many (State)" or some such nonsense.
Do you honestly believe that if Israel gave back the occupied territories, that the rest of the region would leave them alone?
We have had problems with this region since the beginning, hell, even Thomas Jefferson sent the military to the area to clean things up... this whole obsession with Israel is but a headache compared the the brain tumor that really exists.
Where were those settlements pre-67 and why is it that your Arab Islamic nazis still sent suicide missions, armed insurgents, and Arab armies into Israel to attack the Jewish populace? I guess the same arguments apply to Israel proper, i.e., no Jew except dhimmi or dead Jew for you and your Arab Islamic nazi friends.
German intelligencia followed Hitler without any religion. Stalin and Castro were not religious either. Religion is not the cause.
The whole idea that GOD TOLD ME SO, is just very questionable.
OK, you are entitled to think so. I think otherwise. But let's deal with your premise. What is it you think G-D is telling the Jews to do? We know what the Muslims think Alleh is telling them - slaughter the Jews. But what is the "Jewish" G-D telling them to do (in your mind)?
The Christian guy would shake to his deepest being if he would allow himself to inspect the rationale of his theology.
FYI, the Jewish holy book called the Talmud does exactly that. Examines every detail and questions everything.
So back to the Arabs/Israelis/religions mess; here we have a Jew living in LA, with cars, hundred TV channels, and shopping malls; he decides to put all that behind to go and live in the desert among savages, and start learning a difficult new language (Hebrew) just because God told him so? What is wrong with this picture?
Nothing, IMO. It's called "choice". We believe in that here in America.
On the other hand, here we have a young boy listening to his preacher saying if you go kill yourself in the name of Allah, you will get 72 virgins in heaven? Most of us think, well that does not make sense (which is correct) it does not, but so is leaving LA to build a settlement among the savages.
So to you, building a home is the same as committing murder and suicide? I see.
Yes we need to send psychiatrists to the Middle East not diplomats.
Thank you doctor. FYI, many Israelis are not religious and are, in fact, as anti-religious as you are. The entire platform of one of the Israeli political parties, Shinui, is based on hatred of religious people.
However, I think it would be better for most inhabitants of this planet to recognize that religion books were simply written by Humans to establish codes of conduct between people. People, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THESE BOOKS TOO SERIOUSLY!
Well, since you said so we should all listen.
You're setting yourself up for some humoristic responses. You know that, don't you?
may be you know better, my friend.
Well, it is a possibility, isn't it?
The widespread Arab support for the Saudi peace plan seems to indicate that the Arab countries are ready to conclude a just and comprehensive peace. Are the Israelis ready?
We have had problems with this region since the beginning, hell, even Thomas Jefferson sent the military to the area to clean things up... this whole obsession with Israel is but a headache compared the the brain tumor that really exists.
Fine. Let Israel and the Arabs conclude a just peace and then neither side will be able to use the conflict as an excuse for neglecting other problems.
The are no "local laws" in the PA-controlled areas, there is only anarchy.
The Saudi "peace plan" is nothing more than a cynical attempt to steer attention away from the deep Saudi complicity of 9/11. A "peace plan" that demands unconditional surrender from one side and virtually nothing from the other side is in no way balanced or just.
So far, you are speaking of Islam. No one disagrees with you. But let's talk about Judaism for a moment. If you can find this thought expressed in an authentic Jewish text, please let me know.
"Saudi peace plan" - oxymoron if I've ever seen one. And a plan which tries to take the clock back 55 years as if all that Arab Islamic bloodletting was just a walk in the park? LOL!
Ready? Boy, are they ready. Draining innocent teenage blood day and night to prepare those delicious pastries for dessert at the celebratory "peace" signing.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Geneva Convention which allows you to make these incorrect statements. The territories are not illegal colonies and Israel is not an occupying power. Whose land are they occupying except their own, won in a defensive war? Remember, there has NEVER been a Palestinian state. Thus, you are wrong. But I don't expect reality to change your mind.
Israel has used security for the settlements as an excuse to set up an oppressive apartheid-like system of controls over the Arab population of the West Bank and Gaza.
Specify exactly what these controls are and tell us how they could be considered aparthied.
The Israeli settlers are part-and-parcel of the barbaric Israeli occupation.
Arab propaganda is your stock in trade. There is no occupation and Israeli treatment of the Arabs is benign compared to what they deserve and need, i.e., denazification. And, lest we forget, in 1967 when Israel won the lands in a defensive war, the Israeli government offered to provide humanitarian assistance to the Arabs who lived there. This offer was refused by the UN and the other Arab countries. Why?
Jews who want to live peacefully among Arabs in the West Bank or Gaza should apply to live there as ordinary residents, subject to local laws.
It is a crime, punishable by death, to sell land to a Jew under the dictates of the Palestinian Authority. This is what you support.
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