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University of Minnesota Press book challenges anxiety about pedophilia
Newhouse News Service ^
| Mar 26, 2002
| Mark O'Keefe
Posted on 03/26/2002 3:52:47 PM PST by jgrubbs
Edited on 04/13/2004 3:36:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Sex between adults and children has been a societal taboo so strong that it's considered one of our few unquestioned moral principles. But arguments have emerged in academic journals, books and online that at least some such sex should be acceptable, especially when children consent to it.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pedophilia; sex
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Homosexuality has become so accepted in the past 20 years, pedophilia is the next to be accepted then beastiality.
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03/26/2002 3:52:47 PM PST
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jgrubbs
To: jgrubbs
Lord have mercy on us.
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posted on
03/26/2002 3:56:56 PM PST
by
IM2Phat4U
To: jgrubbs
Sooooo, are these perchance, the same academics who are trying to slag down the Catholic Church because of the actions of a few priests???
Hmmm???
To: jgrubbs
I doubt that pedophilia will ever achieve societal acceptance. The reason that homosexuality has been able to achieve some level of mainstream toleration is that most people believe that behavior by consenting ADULTS shouldn't be illegal. Pedophilia can't make the same claim: there's too much evidence of the devastation that early sexual activity can cause. Also, a child is a child and, legally, can't give consent because their judgment isn't the best. Any adult who would have sexual activity with a child is exploitative, to say the least.
To: jgrubbs
Excerpts from a NARTH article: More Recent Defenses of PedophiliaHarris Mirkin recently wrote a lead article in the Journal of Homosexuality entitled "The Pattern of Sexual Politics: Feminism, Homosexuality and Pedophilia." Using social-constructionist theory, he argues that the concept of child molestation is a "culture- and class-specific creation" which can and should be changed.
He likens the battle for the legalization of pedophilia to the battles for women's rights, homosexual rights, and even the civil rights of blacks.
He sees the hoped-for shift as taking place in two stages. During the first stage, the opponents of pedophilia control the debate by insisting that the issue is non-negotiable--while using psychological and moral categories to silence all discussion.
But in the second stage, Mirkin says, the discussion must move on to such issues as the "right" of children to have and enjoy sex.
To: jgrubbs
With more research, some scholars say, it may be only a matter of time before modern society accepts adult-child sex, just as it has learned to accept premarital sex and homosexual sex. "Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," wrote one of the trailblazers for this view, Harris Mirkin, an associate professor of political science at the University of Missouri-Kansas City. The Devil is a patient master - he has all the time in the world. This is yet another example of the one-way ratchet in the decline of civilization. All change is in the direction of more depravity, and nothing ever changes back in the opposite direction. Drop by drop, the stone is worn away.
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03/26/2002 4:03:59 PM PST
by
Argus
To: jgrubbs
With more research, some scholars say, it may be only a matter of time before modern society accepts adult-child sex, just as it has learned to accept premarital sex and homosexual sex. The sicker our society becomes, the more acceptable all manner of sick behaviour will become. I think the Bible addresses this very clearly.
If these sickos are the ones advising and guiding the troubled individuals of our society, we are in real trouble.
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03/26/2002 4:04:00 PM PST
by
scholar
To: jgrubbs
Those making the case aren't just fringe groups, such as the North American Man-Boy Love Association, but a handful of academics at mainstream universities. Since when is a "handful of academics" not a "fringe group"?
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03/26/2002 4:04:02 PM PST
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wotan
To: null and void
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," wrote one of the trailblazers for this view, Harris Mirkin, an associate professor of political scienceHairy Merkin? That can't be his real name!!!
To: jgrubbs
You are right on target. It will be cast as a "civil rights" crusade to "decriminize" children who want to have sex, which is a "choice" the have the "right" to make for themselves. First the academics will issue "studies" to bless "consensual" child sex, then the APA will delete pedophilia from the DSM, then Hollywood and the P.C. establishment will try to shout down and shame any opposition.
Remember "Brave New World"? "Sex play" was taught and encouraged for the children. People who didn't have promiscuous sex were views as deviants.
To: jgrubbs
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," Indeed. When will we lift our heads out of the sand and realize that rape is nothing more than semi-consensual sex and murder is only suicide externalized?
Owl _ Eagle
Guns before butter.
To: jgrubbs
To: jgrubbs
Doesn't how many books they publish, or how lofty are the credentials of the academics who sign off on it.
F***ing kids is wrong.
To: jgrubbs
None of this should surprise anyone familiar with the Gramscian 'long march through the institutions.' Ideas have consequences. Just wait until you see where this takes us. The strangest and most morally repugnant ideas held by ivory-tower academics gradually assume the legitimacy in mainstream thought and culture. Just take a look around - what do you see? You see the likes of Dr. Peter Singer holding high academic honors at one of America's most hallowed universities. You see the vile spew of leftist hate being taught as a matter of course everywhere.
While we've all been distracted with the Potemkin Village politics of the ruling duopoly, the assault on our kids' minds in the schools continues unabated and fully funded.
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03/26/2002 4:16:47 PM PST
by
Noumenon
To: jgrubbs
The descent of Western culture continues...
To: Own Drummer
Really? Doesn't the Holy Koran promise 72 virgins, and 18 young boys to each martyr? How wrong could it be if Allah Himself uses it as a reward?
To: johniegrad; Torie
This was the study that Andrew Sullivan agreed with and that is why he is off my list permanently! I have not been able to find Sullivan's article but he did in fact agree.
To: Argus
All change is not in the direction of depravity.
Although the depravity of these academics is beyond dispute, the fact is clear that child abuse, both physical and sexual, has been consistently declining for generations.
Treatment of children that would have been unremarkable 100 years ago would be cause for criminal prosecution today.
While it is necessary to expose these perverts, don't assume that this morally mutant minority will thrive anywhere beyond the humid hothouse of the university campus.
To: johniegrad
"while using psychological and moral categories to silence all discussion." Isn't that always the liberal method to any subject they wish to dominate?
To: jgrubbs
"Pedophilia is something that's abhorrent, should be condemned in the strongest of terms and should have nothing to do with gay civil rights issues," said David Smith, spokesman for the Washington-based Human Rights Campaign. Smith also spoke out against the North American Man-Boy Love Association, which has been trying to link adult-child sex with homosexual rights for 24 years.
NOT true! Everyone here at FR knows all homosexuals want to have sex with our children . . .
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