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Slavery Reparations
Spartanburg Herald-Journal ^ | March 31,2002

Posted on 03/31/2002 3:59:06 AM PST by Captain Shady

Slavery reparations

Modern corporations and individuals aren’t responsible for injuries from 140 years ago

A New York woman has filed a lawsuit on behalf of "all African-American slave descendents" against three companies accused of benefiting from slavery.

This is the first of the slavery reparation lawsuits. Other attorneys and civil rights activists, including Johnnie Cochran, also are working on lawsuits. Like tobacco and gun control activists, they have not gotten what they want through the democratic process, so they are taking their cause to the courts.

Of course, this case is even more flawed than the others. Not only are there no surviving former slaves who could reasonably file a lawsuit, there are no surviving perpetrators of slavery to sue.

The truth is that slavery in this country was ended almost 140 years ago. It is a shameful part of our past, but it is a part of our collective history. It is not wise nor feasible to apportion blame and compensation more than a century later.

But reason will not deter these activists from their quest for money and power.

The lawsuit filed last week by the great-great-granddaughter of a South Carolina slave names three companies. It claims that the predecessor firms of FleetBoston Financial Corp., Aetna Inc. and the CSX Corp. knowingly benefited from slavery.

Specifically, the suit claims that FleetBoston at one time acquired a bank that had been owned by a man who also owned ships used in the slave trade. It claims that Aetna’s predecessor firm insured slaves for slaveholders. And it claims that CSX acquired railroads built or run by slave labor.

You can see the direction in which this effort is heading. If corporations can be held financially responsible for what their predecessors did, surely individuals can be held responsible for what their predecessors did. And the span of six generations between the injury and the lawsuit means nothing to slavery reparation advocates.

To bolster their case, advocates of slavery reparations point to the Holocaust-related lawsuits. But the comparison is ridiculous. Actual Holocaust survivors sued the actual companies that used Nazi slave labor. A century from now, the Holocaust suits would have been just as pointless as the slavery reparation litigation.

These lawsuits are unlikely to succeed in court. But they may intimidate companies into settlement. No corporation wants to see its name constantly linked to slavery. Such settlements would be nothing more than blackmail payoffs.

The truth is that it’s too late to place responsibility for slavery. Its perpetrators, both corporate and individual, are dead. There is no reason to persecute and sue their descendants.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: insurancecompanies; reparations; slavery
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Maybe you can sue too ,if your ancestors were mistreated. Time to check the archives.

I agree with the editorial.

1 posted on 03/31/2002 3:59:06 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
I would agree with reparations, if their provision would end all affirmative action, equal oppornity programs. 1. Such programs hurt more than help 2. It seems only fair to have one or the other.
2 posted on 03/31/2002 4:02:39 AM PST by UpStateNY
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To: Shuckmaster;stand watie;stainlessbanner;newblood;D Joyce;Libertarianize the GOP;one2many
Communism may have fell ,but the battle against Goofyism goes on.
3 posted on 03/31/2002 4:04:00 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
The first logical step of course, symbolic, yet highly significant, would be for halle berry, being half hated white, to turn over half of everything she owns, or ever will own, to her beloved, peaceful, ever-so-virtuous "people of color."

That would set the stage for all of us (though she might want to attach a few strings -- like: no using the money for booze, drugs, prostitution,and spawning more bastards. But, then again, mayber she wouldn't.) Come on half-person-of-color halle. You go, girl (fist pounding air, continual grunting noises)!

4 posted on 03/31/2002 4:05:40 AM PST by elwoodp
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To: UpStateNY
Might as well put th end to the welfare state at the same time.
5 posted on 03/31/2002 4:06:20 AM PST by dinodino
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To: UpStateNY
I would agree with reparations, if their provision would end all affirmative action, equal oppornity programs. 1. Such programs hurt more than help 2. It seems only fair to have one or the other.

Good point. All those programs sound like reparations already made.

6 posted on 03/31/2002 4:06:23 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
My first ancestor in this land was a German shopkeeper who was kidnapped by British "press-gangs". He was brought to this country as a slave and forced to fight as a Hessian soldier. (He subsequently switched to the patriot side and later settled in PA.) Does this entitle me to sue the British crown? I'm fat--can I sue the makers of cholocate, pizza and beer? This is such horse-puckey.
7 posted on 03/31/2002 4:09:03 AM PST by NerdDad
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To: elwoodp
Bet Halle would hate that idea.
8 posted on 03/31/2002 4:09:41 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: NerdDad
I see what you're saying. Its like sueing the Indians for getting our ancestors hooked on tobacco.
9 posted on 03/31/2002 4:11:32 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
This is nothing more than ill-disguised extortion, and if it goes through, it will be the end of what little goodwill is left toward blacks.

The rightness of overturning Jim Crow laws and segregation was apparent to most decent people, but since that time "civil rights" has morphed into an ugly parody of itself, rife with its own brand of bigotry and discrimination.

Those who go down this road are not going to like the end results at all.

10 posted on 03/31/2002 4:14:10 AM PST by backhoe
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To: elwoodp
BTW ,most African-Americans have some white linage.Any African will point that if you ask him.
11 posted on 03/31/2002 4:15:14 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
Every one of my ancestors arrived here long after slavery ended, and my grandparents did find quite a bit of bias against them. They perservered, made sure that their children were educated, and gave them a better life. My parents worked hard to see that I had a better life than they had. They didn't have affirmative action, or any government help of any kind.

On my father's side, my great grandfather was a street merchant in NY. He made sure that my grandfather was educated, and he eventually became a dentist, then a professor of dentistry at NYU. My mother's father came over from Poland, and was a bootmaker by trade. My mother worked two jobs while putting herself through college. All this without government handouts or other programs...

If you look at recent immagrants from coutries like Jamaica, you see blacks working hard and getting ahead. Why is it that they can make headway against the "institutionalized racism," but native born blacks can't? Could it be that they haven't had their work ethic destroyed by government and the so-called "black leadership?" They don't expect hand-outs, and work hard for what they want and need. They realize that the way to self respect is to earn what they get, and not worrying about "self image."

I want to know exactly how slavery has directly impacted the lives of blacks today. Was slavery wrong and evil? Well, duh! Did some blacks lose family members to slavery? Of course! But then, this sort of thing happens to everyone. At one time or another, just about everyone has lost family members to some sort of evil.

Mark

12 posted on 03/31/2002 4:19:50 AM PST by MarkL
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To: backhoe
The rightness of overturning Jim Crow laws and segregation was apparent to most decent people, but since that time "civil rights" has morphed into an ugly parody of itself, rife with its own brand of bigotry and discrimination.

Yes. Its very counter-productive to pursue reparations. Why destroy cooperation and goodwill which has been here in abundance in this country? Its time to stop this race-baiting in the name of reparations.

13 posted on 03/31/2002 4:21:46 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: MarkL
I salute your family. They carved out a life for themselves here. With the logic of the reparations movement,you could sue Russia for the rough times they caused Poland - but your family is probably better people than that.
14 posted on 03/31/2002 4:27:47 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
Two topics in the news. 1) Reparations for American slaves. 2) Palestinians.

No American slaves are alive. They don't exist. Neither do "Palastinians".

15 posted on 03/31/2002 4:29:44 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Captain Shady
The first folks to roam the land that is now the U.S.A, the American Indians,should have the right to sue the Blacks in this country since the Blacks benefitted greatly by being brought to these shores,ie. the present condition of blacks in Somalia or the Sudan or south Africa. .

The Indians are still in some trouble on reservations around the U.S. and any thought that the courts would "grant" reparations to blacks must be set aside for the indians.

Now I would like to form a group to have Our Govt. Confisgate all holdings and money belonging to the English govt. in this country pending the outcome of a class action suit by the irish because of the abuse, deprivation and loss caused by the Brit Govt. on my forbearers and ultimately on me and my family.

16 posted on 03/31/2002 4:32:51 AM PST by chatham
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To: Captain Shady
Question to all:

What percent of blacks were slaves in 1865? Were they all slaves?

17 posted on 03/31/2002 4:32:56 AM PST by Tripleplay
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To: isthisnickcool
No American slaves are alive. They don't exist. Neither do "Palastinians".

Don't know anything about "Palestinians" ,but I don't think there are any slaves in America now. One's job might not be desirable ,but we can leave the plantation now if we don't like it.

18 posted on 03/31/2002 4:34:55 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Tripleplay
Don't know the percentages ,but there were always at least some free blacks even in the South.
19 posted on 03/31/2002 4:37:26 AM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Captain Shady
My father was one-half Native American, Blackfeet Tribe, and grew up on the reservation. As it happens my father's father walked away from the reservation during the Great Depression to earn his living as a professional Rodeo Rider. The Reservation is and was a terrible place to grow up ....

What about our reparations? What about the murder of over 250,000 Blackfeet including women and children using smallpox infected blankets as a biological genocide weapon? What about the long pattern of refusal by the U.S. government to pay for Native American real property stolen by the U.S. Army?

So when do I get title to all my real property including Yellowstone Park ? All you nasty Americans will have to be evicted ..... When will I get my uranium and gold and silver and oil royalties?

This lawsuit on behalf of blacks is outrageous! If the blacks had not been brought here as slaves they would still be in Africa .... DUH!

20 posted on 03/31/2002 4:47:01 AM PST by ex-Texan
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