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Arafat's cover is now truly blown
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | 4/2/02 | David Warren

Posted on 04/02/2002 4:03:08 PM PST by veronica

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To: veronica
. The intention is to force Israel to turn against its native Arab population, in the hope of further radicalizing that community and, ultimately, creating a fresh refugee crisis.

This is indeed the problem. Please look closely. The native Arab population are the TRUE Palestinians. It is estimated that around 6% of "Palestinians" actually have parents that lived in Israel at one time. The 94% of the rest are from Syria, Jordan, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq and Sudan. They are the forces of the Islamic Jihad.

People often ask why Israel does not just fight back. You must understand the difference between us and our battle with Afghanistan. We do not know anybody in Afghanistan, it is easy to just blow them away, they are guilty as a nation. But Israel knows intimately the 6% of the "Palestinians" that actually came from Palestine the place instead of the Palestine Liberation Organization that created the straw man Mr "Palestinian". Those 6% of local Arabs have worked alongside Israeli's for hundreds of years, they are the waiter, the baker, your neighbor and your friend. Tell me, if one out of a hundred people in a village are your friends, can you just shell the village into the ground when someone from that village does a suicide bomb attack on your local school? Israel is up to its neck in terrorists, hundreds of thousands of them! How do you sort the 6% out that are your friends? Those Arabs are the skirts that the Islamic's hide behind.

When America rescued Arafat from the sure defeat of Lebanon and made Israel allow him to move into the West Bank, America CREATED this problem! Before our policy of “peacemaking” it was a whole lot more peaceful around here and the death tolls show it. Rescuing Arafat and arming Iraq are the two stupidest things America has ever done. That and allowing income tax. (Without the endless feed trough, the beast does not grow bigger than the barn) but that is a different thread.

The 6% of Arabs that actually have family roots inside Israel, belong there, the 94% must be thrown out of the country if there is ever to be a true peace, but at this point only God can sort them. He is going to.

81 posted on 04/03/2002 12:24:10 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: ak47fred
God help us all.

The Israeli Jews are now no better than the Nazis that bombarded the ghettos of Poland in WWII. Even going so far as to scrawl numbers on their 'Pali' (a favorite FR term) prisoners.

History repeats itself as WWIII approaches.

I am looking around, fred... looking for the victim numbers... there must be some mistake!!! SURELY someone has omitted some ZERO's from the numbers???

The Palestinian press is crying about 15 dead from those mass murdering Jews!!! That must be 150,000!!! 15,000? 1,500???

What is it you say??? Those armed to the teeth with American weapons Jews, the best they can do in 7 DAYS of non-stop terror and murder is only 15 Pali's??? And of those "poor" 15, 14 were in uniform??? What gives? Where are the murdered civilians??? Surely, the Israeli's would at least butcher a few Pali's to prepare their pastry fillings, no???

Ok... I feel better now. Come to think of it, the presstitutes are sickeningly silent about the incredibly low number of casualties from the IDF!!! Those boys know their business, and unless some western derelict "shield" pussy pukes start trying to intercept bullets, almost no civilians are getting hurt!!!

Way to go, IDF!!! Don't let the leftist bastards from CNN hang you!

82 posted on 04/03/2002 12:56:57 AM PST by besieged
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To: veronica
>>The intention is to force Israel to turn against its native Arab population, in the hope of further radicalizing that community and, ultimately, creating a fresh refugee crisis.<<

Brave, and clever, too.

What formidable enemies!

83 posted on 04/03/2002 1:24:29 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: liberalism=failure
I don't think our President considers Arafat to be the world's most wondrous peacemaker, do you? Have you seen Arafat parading around our White House even once during the Bush administration? (As he did hundreds of times during clinton's reign of disgrace?)

Can't you understand the brilliance evidenced in sitting back, making professional moves towards negotiations (ie, Cheney's offer to meet Arafat, which Arafat most unwisely snubbed, or Zinny's attempts), allowing Arafat to expose his under-belly to the world so as to allow all of us to really view what this madman is about (see the pic of the palestinian man hanging, about to be eviscerated by palestinians because he was suspected of being sympathetic to Jewish people) and permitting Israel go for it, to crush the structure of a man so vile, so heinous, so evil that he would send children out strapped with bombs on their backs to kill other civilians.

Arafat is plain lucky his territory does not border the USA.

84 posted on 04/03/2002 1:28:27 AM PST by Republic
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To: PA Engineer; PGalt; ALL
Your both welcome. That letter is so accurate and succinct. The young doctor said it in such a personal and interesting way. It was easy to read and to understand his emotions, and the REALITY of life for Israeli's.

There have been rallies in California protesting Israeli and US support of them. We MUST try to educate as many people as possible to the REALITIES of what is happening over there. Also on that thread.. are letters from others who back what this doctor is saying.

Maybe people could even send a link to that thread.

Thanks for reading it..and for those who haven't yet, here is the link again.

"LETTER FROM ISRAEL"

85 posted on 04/03/2002 10:05:57 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: veronica
After three decades of terrorism the world may finally discover that Arafat is not interested in peace.
86 posted on 04/03/2002 10:20:53 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: copycat
I see. W, with all of the intelligence of the United States at his disposal and the finest foreign policy minds available as advisors,

The state department may be full of "the finest foreign policy minds available", but unfortunately the state department is not on our side. The state department was historically full of communists and after 8 years of Clinton it is certainly full of socialists. Bush needs to clean house in the state department including Colin Powell.

87 posted on 04/03/2002 11:20:18 AM PST by Pres Raygun
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To: knighthawk
After three decades of terrorism the world may finally discover that Arafat is not interested in peace.

Imagine 30 years from now, the US government trying to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Osama bin Laden.

88 posted on 04/03/2002 11:22:47 AM PST by Pres Raygun
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To: Pres Raygun
I bet the UN will side with OBL!
89 posted on 04/03/2002 11:28:19 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: veronica
The press near me and on bradcast has been spinning everything so badly that we can hook generators up to it and get power..
Nice to see that some press somehwere is trying to remain objective. Now... when are we going to put Arafat out of our misery?
91 posted on 04/03/2002 1:09:14 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: copycat
>>Arafat is a terrorist... a murderer of innocent women and children.

As is Sharon. Neither deserve American tax dollars.

92 posted on 04/03/2002 5:16:54 PM PST by ak47fred
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To: tet68
>>Yo Fred, drop the AK and get a real rifle.

Actually, the AK is battle-proven and quite capable. The M16 carried by our troops is prone to breakdown when exposed to dirt in the very least degree. In Afghanistan for instance, they're requiring three or four cleanings daily.

93 posted on 04/03/2002 5:22:16 PM PST by ak47fred
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To: ak47fred
I agree neither deserves American tax dollars, but disagree that Sharon is a murderer of innocent women and children. Perhaps you have a source?
94 posted on 04/03/2002 5:31:01 PM PST by copycat
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To: copycat
>>disagree that Sharon is a murderer of innocent women and children.

I suggest that you do some research on his tenure as the Butcher of Lebanon. He's a thug, no better than Arafat.

95 posted on 04/03/2002 5:44:38 PM PST by ak47fred
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To: ak47fred
I did a search on the Butcher of Lebanon. I found several sources which refer to him that way.

The Journal of Marxist-Humanism
The Twin Cities Anti-War Committee
Al-Ahram Weekly
www.larouchepub.com

And here's a lovely sample of those with your mindset...

Victory to the Palestinian people!

Once again the Palestinian people have risen against the Zionist occupation of their homeland. The Zionists have responded brutally, using tanks and helicopter gunships against civilians in a vain attempt to re-impose their authority. Nearly 120 Palestinian people have been murdered, including 35 children. The shock waves of the new intifada have reverberated around the world. Stock markets have jittered for fear of a new rise in oil prices. A challenge from an undefeated people threatens global economic chaos.

Ariel Sharon, the butcher of Lebanon in 1982, knew the consequence of his provocative visit to the Al-Haram Al Sharief in Jerusalem on 29 September. No doubt prime minister Barak did as well: he ensured there were 1,000 armed police to surround the Haram, who opened fire on protesting worshippers. At least 7 Palestinians were killed and over 250 injured. Next day, world TV broadcast the horrific final moments in the life of 12-year-old Mohamed El Durra as he attempted to hide with his father behind a concrete block. After 30 minutes' terror, he was deliberately shot dead by Zionist troops; more than 30 children have been murdered since. Zionist settlers have kidnapped and tortured Palestinian farmers and raided Palestinian villages under the protection of the Israeli army.

Such fascist terror has become the norm. Despite the opposition of the mass of the Palestinian people, Arafat has continued to negotiate with the Zionist enemy, going to Sharm El Sheikh to make even more concessions. Meanwhile General Sharon is insisting that Barak admits him to the Israeli government, giving him the defence portfolio. Our own Labour government has voted in the UN against a resolution condemning the excessive violence of the Israeli state. Labour has always been a loyal friend of the Zionists. But the Palestinian people fight on, and their struggle rightly demands the support of all socialists and democrats. Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism! has always campaigned in defence of the Palestinian people, and will continue to do so until their just goals have been achieved.

Isolate the racist Zionist state!
Self-determination for the Palestinian people!

I remain unconvinced.

96 posted on 04/03/2002 6:17:02 PM PST by copycat
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To: copycat
>>I remain unconvinced.

Continue your studies.

97 posted on 04/03/2002 6:32:11 PM PST by ak47fred
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To: ak47fred
The claims that Sharon is "The Butcher of Lebanon" are nowhere confirmed by reputable sources. They are vacuous.

Unless you can uncover a reputable source, the casual observer must conclude that label is anti-Israeli PROPAGANDA.

99 posted on 04/03/2002 6:47:12 PM PST by copycat
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To: copycat
>>Unless you can uncover a reputable source, the casual observer must conclude that label is anti-Israeli PROPAGANDA.

Do your own research.

Sharon was responsible for the massacres in Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in southern Lebanon in 1982. They were carried out by Lebanese Christian militiamen, under the command of Israeli troops, commanded by Sharon, hence the title "Butcher of Lebanon."

He was subsequently fired by his own government for his actions and only emerged from the political wilderness, when the Israelis dumped Barak for a "tough guy."

Shouting propaganda won't change the facts.

100 posted on 04/03/2002 7:08:29 PM PST by ak47fred
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