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Arafat's cover is now truly blown
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | 4/2/02 | David Warren

Posted on 04/02/2002 4:03:08 PM PST by veronica

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To: ak47fred
The Israeli Jews are now no better than the Nazis that bombarded the ghettos of Poland in WWII. Even going so far as to scrawl numbers on their 'Pali' (a favorite FR term) prisoners.

I bet you're wearing a robe and slippers that are secured with velcro ties and that you have apple sauce dribbling from your chin.

I didn't realize the home allowed nuts like you internet access.

41 posted on 04/02/2002 4:58:33 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Commiesout, grouchotwo
The plan, Stan.
42 posted on 04/02/2002 5:01:11 PM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
This article hits on one reason you don't see alot of middle eastern governments helping lizard face right now.

Their realization that evidence of thier colaboration with Arafat is documented and now in the hands of not only Israel,

but and American President on the warpath against terrorism where ever it resides.

I imagine the behind the scenes conversations are very interesting to say the least.

43 posted on 04/02/2002 5:03:51 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: ak47fred
Yo Fred, drop the AK and get a real rifle.

History repeats itself as WWIII approaches.

A day late and a dollar short, another FNG bites the dust.
Approaches????? Better shape up mister!

44 posted on 04/02/2002 5:06:01 PM PST by tet68
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To: michigander
I suggest the Israeli's Capture the Creature, "Arafat," & take him to Baghdad!

I Suggest the Israeli's RELEASE Mr Arafat---at about 35,000 feet over "Saddam's Last known Location!!" (WITHOUT a PARACHUTE!!)

Perhaps THEN, the psychopathic morons "Directing" the current "Islamic Revolution" would "Get the Hint!!"

Doc

45 posted on 04/02/2002 5:07:58 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks for the link. Everyone should read that letter.
46 posted on 04/02/2002 5:09:27 PM PST by PA Engineer
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To: veronica
Good article. Thanks for posting it.
47 posted on 04/02/2002 5:09:48 PM PST by PGalt
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To: veronica; 2sheep
I wonder if they'll blow another cover. He's alleged to be a voracious homosexual. See: Kremlin puppets and how they work He sure acts like one!
48 posted on 04/02/2002 5:09:55 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: section9
Please. Bush has already been lied to once by Arafat (the Karin A Affair). He understands that Arafat is no friend of the very idea of peace with Israel.

Then he ought to acknowledge that publicly. And quit the charade.

The U.S. has to concentrate on the mission at hand: Iraq.

See that's the problem. Bush has this pipe dream of an Arab coalition to fight Iraq. And thinks that he will get it if he does something about Israel.

But he deosn't get it. They don't give a crap about the Palestinians, in fact most of those countries killed Palestinains or drove them out of their own countries.

They are just using them as an excuse to vent their hatred of Jews. As it is the ragheads have all told us they don't want us attacking Iraq.

Does GWB really think they'll change their minds if he treats Israel with a hypocritical double standard?

Furthermore aren't we tired of the manipulation yet? We had 8 years of manipulation and hidden motives with Clinton, isn't time we asked for that. Don't we deserve more than that by now?

Mr. Bush do what's right, back Israel, and proclaim the truth about Arafat. And tell the ragheads if they don;t like it they can go to hell where they belong.

49 posted on 04/02/2002 5:11:12 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: mv1, luvzhottea, usadmirer
Bump.
50 posted on 04/02/2002 5:11:23 PM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Can't help wondering how it smells by now inside the Arafat HQ. No running water? Pee-yoooo!!!
51 posted on 04/02/2002 5:12:24 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: ak47fred
Give it up. The link between Arafat and the Al-Aqsa Brigade has been revealed. Arafat is a terrorist... a murderer of innocent women and children.

I know the American Media will studiously avoid and convieniently forget this fact, but it will never be allowed to be forgotten here at FR.

You, if you supporter the "Pali's," reveal yourself as a supporter of the murder of innocent women and children. Congrats...

52 posted on 04/02/2002 5:16:29 PM PST by copycat
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To: veronica
Great article. Thanks for the flag.
53 posted on 04/02/2002 5:20:39 PM PST by agrace
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To: okie01
"Israel should simply annex the "Occupied Territories", initially won in defending their home turf against aggressors. This would achieve more defensible borders and sufficient living space to sustain their population. Any Israeli Arabs who are suspected of sympathy for the Palestinians, or otherwise want to leave, would be "encouraged" to do so."

Of course, they should have done this years ago. They are paying now for having been forbearing earlier. But, I agree, better late than never. I don't think they will, though. They don't seem to be able to generate a national consensus to go just against world opinion and annex the territories and be done with it.

54 posted on 04/02/2002 5:20:45 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: liberalism=failure
hope Bush reads it so he can finally pull his head out of his ass and see that Arafat is no peacemaker (duh).

Gee - Maybe US Intelligence should hire you! You're obviously smarter than they are and by your claim, Bush is too stupid or his advisors are too stupid, to advise him. It's REAL SIMPLE ISN'T IT?!? Any idiot should know the solution.

55 posted on 04/02/2002 5:21:53 PM PST by Alissa
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To: veronica
Will the Israeli operation succeed?

The short answer is no.

I'm sorry to disagree with this article since so many friends of Israel here like it, but it has several liberal fallacies.

If Israel is determined to defeat the Palestinian Authority (PA), it has the power to do so. And that is what I hope it is doing. If Israel shrinks from doing the full job in the current round of fighting, in my opinion, it will have to do it after the next two or three really big suicide bomb successes.

The current high levels of Palestinian terror are not inevitable, otherwise they would have occurred two and three years ago, when things were, instead, 100% better and Israel was probably the safest place in the Middle East for U.S. tourists. This terror wave started in October 2000 shortly after Israel showed weakness through withdrawal from Lebanon and, especially, by making massive unilateral concessions at Camp David. Palestinians are being told by their leaders that Israelis have gone soft, Israeli young men are refusing to fight, and that the uprising is highly successful. If anyone can remember back to the news in late 2000 and early 2001: The early part of the current Infitada focused on denying Jews access to holy sites on the West Bank, mainly graves of Old Testament figures. This was highly successful, and inspired the PA to make the recent maximum effort. If the Israelis can show Palestinians that the Infitada is failing, people will not be so eager to die for it.

As for the stuff in the article about building a "Berlin Wall," this will not work. The PA will just tunnel under, etc. The walls between East and West Germany usually worked because the poor East Germans trying to flee lacked extensive resources to break through the fence. By contrast, PA suicide bombers would be backed by large scale military forces able to break through inevitable weak points of the fence at will. Think how hard it would be for the U.S. to guard the Mexican border if the people trying to get into the U.S. were Mexican military! And we, the world's superpower, can't even secure our borders against civilians! The Israeli public does want a wall, but they're dreaming.

In short, for Israel there is no substitute for victory. Only after a strong military victory does a generous peace treaty become possible, as the U.S. granted the defeated Germany and Japan and victory in World War II.

Thanks as always, from a Jew, for the inspiring support for Israel in this forum.

56 posted on 04/02/2002 5:23:07 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: veronica
Will the Israeli operation succeed?

The short answer is no.

I'm sorry to disagree with this article since so many friends of Israel here like it, but it has several liberal fallacies.

If Israel is determined to defeat the Palestinian Authority (PA), it has the power to do so. And that is what I hope it is doing. If Israel shrinks from doing the full job in the current round of fighting, in my opinion, it will have to do it after the next two or three really big suicide bomb successes.

The current high levels of Palestinian terror are not inevitable, otherwise they would have occurred two and three years ago, when things were, instead, 100% better and Israel was probably the safest place in the Middle East for U.S. tourists. This terror wave started in October 2000 shortly after Israel showed weakness through withdrawal from Lebanon and, especially, by making massive unilateral concessions at Camp David. Palestinians are being told by their leaders that Israelis have gone soft, Israeli young men are refusing to fight, and that the uprising is highly successful. If anyone can remember back to the news in late 2000 and early 2001: The early part of the current Infitada focused on denying Jews access to holy sites on the West Bank, mainly graves of Old Testament figures. This was highly successful, and inspired the PA to make the recent maximum effort. If the Israelis can show Palestinians that the Infitada is failing, people will not be so eager to die for it.

As for the stuff in the article about building a "Berlin Wall," this will not work. The PA will just tunnel under, etc. The walls between East and West Germany usually worked because the poor East Germans trying to flee lacked extensive resources to break through the fence. By contrast, PA suicide bombers would be backed by large scale military forces able to break through inevitable weak points of the fence at will. Think how hard it would be for the U.S. to guard the Mexican border if the people trying to get into the U.S. were Mexican military! And we, the world's superpower, can't even secure our borders against civilians! The Israeli public does want a wall, but they're dreaming.

In short, for Israel there is no substitute for victory. Only after a strong military victory does a generous peace treaty become possible, as the U.S. granted the defeated Germany and Japan after victory in World War II.

Thanks as always, from a Jew, for the inspiring support for Israel in this forum.

57 posted on 04/02/2002 5:23:31 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks for the "Letter" link.
58 posted on 04/02/2002 5:25:25 PM PST by PGalt
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To: liberalism=failure
But he deosn't get it. They don't give a crap about the Palestinians, in fact most of those countries killed Palestinains or drove them out of their own countries.

I see. W, with all of the intelligence of the United States at his disposal and the finest foreign policy minds available as advisors, doesn't get it, but you, writing here on an anonymous Internet forum, do.

Perhaps you should consider enlightening them.

59 posted on 04/02/2002 5:29:24 PM PST by copycat
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Sorry about the repeated long post just above.
60 posted on 04/02/2002 5:31:28 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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