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President Pushed to Escalate War in Israel and Beyond
UExpress ^ | April, 2002 | Georgie Anne Geyer

Posted on 04/10/2002 9:23:29 AM PDT by Seti 1

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To: ohioman
You are completely full of shit!

You have such a way with words, Ohioman. Have you thought of joining the poetry thread?

41 posted on 04/10/2002 10:49:27 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: Seti 1
" I think the score is about five to one at last count but that doesn't include the hundreds killed in the last few days. Of course, it's Palestinians on the one hand and Jews on the other--that makes all the difference."

One side is justified and the other isn't.

The Palestinians are murdering Jews. The Jews are trying to defend themselves against the murdering Palestinians.

There is no moral equivalence between murder and self-defense.

42 posted on 04/10/2002 10:53:02 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: Seti 1
There is a difference between those who target terrorists who are hiding behind their families - and those who deliberately bypass military targets to walk into shopping malls and massacre the other guys' families.

Maybe the you and the Palestinians really are too uncivilized to tell the difference.

43 posted on 04/10/2002 10:55:44 AM PDT by watchin
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To: Seti 1
Over many , many years, no journalist has impressed me the way G.G. has. And she has always had the guts to speak the truth as she sees it.
44 posted on 04/10/2002 10:59:38 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: watchin
Seti ... you hate those &%^$% Jew #$%$@#'s,

If I hated Jews I would be 150% in favor of backing Israel at all costs. If the unthinkable (given Israeli atomic weapons) happened and Israel went under where do you think the survivors would go? Let me tell you. The US would move in massively to stop the killing and negotiate to allow Israelis to emigrate to the US (a large proportion would be only too happy to do so). The fall of Israel would mean several million more Jews in the US. So if I'm such a Jew-hater why am I not a charter member of the Israel First gang?

You might want to think about that Maybe some of these goy Israel Firsters just hate Jews.

45 posted on 04/10/2002 11:00:16 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: Seti 1
Our support of Israel has brought us:

the enmity of the 1/4 of the world's population which is Muslim
Inevitable, given the world view of Islam, with or without our support of Israel.

the contempt of Europe
The gelatinous mass of European politicians, who stand for nothing, but expect U.S. protection from everything (including Islamic terrorists in their midst), is contemptible. We are above their contempt; they (with the possible exception of Great Britain and a few minor players), are beneath ours.

the condemnation (and hidden glee) of Russia and China
I’m not sure what you’re smoking, but whatever face-saving grumbling Russia might make, she does not oppose our support of Israel, since she herself has quite a problem with Islamic terrorists, which has nothing to do with Israel; as for China, the act of Americans breathing brings condemnation.

46 posted on 04/10/2002 11:01:02 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Seti 1
The author is a silly little putz that couldn't survive a day the park much less survive an attack on the US. She suffer's from the Bill Mahler disease, if there is danger refuse to see it, if it can't be reasoned with, buy it off, if it can't be bought off, surrender. Hopefully they will both move to France so they can be with like minded individuals.
47 posted on 04/10/2002 11:01:53 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: watchin
Well, your little pictures certainly clarified a complex situation. Must be nice not to have to think.
48 posted on 04/10/2002 11:05:04 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: MissAmericanPie
The author is a silly little putz...

She's been a major foreign correspondent for over thirty years. What have you done recently?

49 posted on 04/10/2002 11:07:23 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: Seti 1
Geyer has been in the forefront opposing the tidal wave of illegal immigration in this country and for that alone we all owe her a great debt of gratitude.
The lopsided support of Israel, extorted through lobbyists and hardball political blackmail, has caused us terrible damage to our reputation as an honest broker. Too many mistakenly think that America is waging war against them by proxy Israel. They do not understand the nature of power politics and AIPAC and ADL lobbying to name but two.
50 posted on 04/10/2002 11:09:47 AM PDT by luvzhottea
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To: Seti 1
Georgie Anne Geyer continues to tell it like it is.

No, but she does tell it like a certain subset of society wants it to be spun. Maddy Halfwit and Billyboy Cartoon, for example.

Neville Chamberlain would approve, too.

51 posted on 04/10/2002 11:11:09 AM PDT by EternalHope
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To: luvzhottea
Sit back now. Your going to be told you hate Jewish people.
52 posted on 04/10/2002 11:15:21 AM PDT by smithson
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To: Seti 1
Wow, give Georgie some oxygen. Where did she ever get the silly idea that Bush takes his foreign policy advice from Bill Kristol, a T.V. commenatator, and not from Cheney, Powell, Rice and Rumsfeld?? And why the nasty comments about Sharon? Sharon's operation into Lebanon sidelined Arafat into Tunisian retirement until Georgie's buddies in the international foreign policy establishment brought him back and put him in the West Bank, where the bodies have been piling up ever since.

These foreign policy "experts" who have been promoting Arafat and the P.A. ought to be begging forgiveness for creating creating a hell on earth in the West Bank instead of making snide remarks about the leaders trying to clean up the mess they made.

53 posted on 04/10/2002 11:16:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Seti 1
If you were a discerning person you'd realize that the drawing posted by "watchin" is rife with symbolism that suggests that the Palestinians are not only involved in the wholesale and cold-blooded murder of innocents, they are also practicing the ritual of child sacrifice.
54 posted on 04/10/2002 11:18:33 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: Seti 1
This is suppose to be impressive credentials? HA! Any old leftist can be a foreign correspondent. She needs to stay foreign.
55 posted on 04/10/2002 11:21:01 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: browardchad
Inevitable, given the world view of Islam, with or without our support of Israel.

This is the party line of the Israel First gang repeated over and over by the media. That does not make it true. We are a major customer for Arab oil and the Arabs have every reason to be friendly to us as they were for years. They have their interests and we have ours and they are not the same but that does not require enmity.

Our support of Israel has been a disaster for American interests and at the moment threatens our peace, our economy and our internal tranquility. The Israel Firsters simply don't care--they would sacrifice the US for Israeli advantage any day.

56 posted on 04/10/2002 11:26:38 AM PDT by Seti 1
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"Every day, Prime Minister Sharon commits some new horror,..."

Oh, you mean like blowing up buses...as occured today?

57 posted on 04/10/2002 11:30:39 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: luvzhottea
Too many mistakenly think that America is waging war against them by proxy Israel. They do not understand the nature of power politics and AIPAC and ADL lobbying to name but two

This is a point very obvious to anyone who has traveled in the Middle East. The Arab man-in-the-street does not, cannot, believe that the US is doing Israel's bidding. They believe that Israel is the US agent attacking the Palestinians for some American agenda. I have seen that view expressed on one of the Jews-Against-the-Occupation sites, as well. They, at least, should know better.

58 posted on 04/10/2002 11:35:30 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: Chunga
You are exactly right. That is exactly what it suggests the Palestenians are supporting, for that is exactly what they support. Or do you not know what the Palestenian youth are taught in their schools? Do you not know that their youth play as suicide bombers? Do you not know that their families are compensated for the sacrifice of their young? Finally, how can you not know these things?
59 posted on 04/10/2002 11:37:50 AM PDT by =Intervention=
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To: Seti 1
I have one word of response to you: Iran. Radical Islam has always hated the United States and will continue to do so, reality aside.
60 posted on 04/10/2002 11:39:37 AM PDT by =Intervention=
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