Posted on 04/10/2002 9:23:29 AM PDT by Seti 1
That is the alternate reality that the left-wing Jews live in, the ones with their heads up their.....
Right. Perfectly doable. What is the weenie's reaction?
"One wants to ask breathlessly: Is that all? Why, we could do that before lunch! Why not eradicate evil from the heart of man while we're about it?"
These are quite minor powers. We have "effected regime change" simultaneously in Germany, Japan, Italy, half a dozen minor axis powers and as many again quisling occupied nations. Undoubtedly that seems simply impossible to the weenie, but we did all of them, against direct military resistence, by joining a world-wide alliance of their enemies. Then for good measure we "effected regime change" in the USSR and all of eastern Europe, by sustained diplomatic means, leading half the world.
Now a much smaller power bloc, radical Islamic states (whether motivated by radical Islam itself or by Arab nationalism, socialism, or Jew hatred), has taken us on. And suddenly the weenie discovers that victory over minor powers is beyond our means. Yet our political, military, and economic relative power has never been higher than today. No superpower stands behind the minor terrorist states, ready to deter us from escalating or to bail them out after their defeats.
The coalition that has attacked us, and their fellow travellers, aiders, armers, is certainly dangerous. They showed that by leveling a significant portion of lower Manhattan, which the weenie seems not to have noticed. They are a threat because several of them are seeking far more destructive weapons, which proliferated into the hands of non-state actors, would allow them to strike at us with a veneer of deniability.
The inability to deter such threats with the usual method, threatened nuclear retaliation to annihilate the attacking state, requires another means to deal with it. (Unless the weenie would prefer we just nuke them off the planet - no? Didn't think so). Regime change is a quite limited means of dealing with this threat. It leaves the countries intact, altering only their governments. It may sometimes require conventional invasion, but temporarily - whereas we thought nothing of garrisoning Germany for 50 years, and directly ruling Germany and Japan with military governors for years after our arrival.
The weenie thinks it would be safer to sit around picking our noses until Saddam gives Hamas, or Iran gives Hezbollah, nuclear weapons. This is because he has scarcely any idea of the real world he is living in. He does not "grok" that all the shelter and normalcy he has ever known was carved out of an unwilling and hostile world by the main force of US military power, now or in the past. There is nothing new about it, the weenie just never noticed it before.
Both sides long ago ran out of tolerance. We should be on the side of US interests, which in this case means (IHO)neither side. Our support of Israel has brought us the enmity of the 1/4 of the world's population which is Muslim, the contempt of Europe, the condemnation (and hidden glee) of Russia and China. What do we get for that? Certain politicians get large cash donations and the support of the media.
You haven't been watching the news. I think the score is about five to one at last count but that doesn't include the hundreds killed in the last few days. Of course, it's Palestinians on the one hand and Jews on the other--that makes all the difference.
I can't speak for certain politicans, as I imagine they're equal opportunity bribe-able, but the media has been very anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian these past few decades.
Having said that, I guess you're right, we really get nothing from the Israelis--except--if you're a certain kind of Christian, you believe in certain Bilble passages that Israel sits in a central poisition in God's eyes and must be supported. While people agree and disagree with that, it is a topic that influences our policies. IMHO, the Israelis are the wronged party, and since 9/11, again, IMHO, their enemies are our enemies, so I support Israeli actions to rid (their part of) the world of terrorists.
If your point is what US special interest would cause us to be pro-Israel and therefore anti-Arab/Muslim, then I really don't have an answer, but I still sense it is more right than wrong.
You can try all you like to make Israel the aggressor, but the truth will always prevail. Israel has been attacked again and again by people whose desire is the elimination of the Jewish state ... and people.
An amphibious landing in Lebanon, an armored thrust through Syria, half right turn on to Baghdad. Another armored thrust from Kuwait towards Basra.
Let Israel and Turkey protect the flanks. Iran can’t / won’t move through the same marshes that stopped them back in the ‘80s.
Sure in heck would shake up the ba$tards, and shift the power base.
Oh and I don't think I'll plan on visiting Ohio anytime soon.
I new it would not take too long before the "your a anti-semite, neo-nazi, and white supremist" crowd would come out. Please refer to the post that Seti says he hates Jewish people.
This kind of crap should be pulled by the site monitor. It's a personel attack, and a disgusting one at that.
That's part of what it's about.
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