Posted on 04/30/2002 12:11:21 AM PDT by Mini-14
Oh, but I _DO_ realize that. I fully expect him to present a full-assed case - I just expect him to void and wipe before presenting the case, unlike AWB supporters.
Ashcroft MUST present the best legitimate legal case he can, and must cover all the arguments that Metzenbaum (sp?) & Co. would present, else they will scream that he short-changed the case. HOWEVER, if he presents that side's arguments CLEARLY, as based in law, the pro-AWB case cannot stand and will be shown ludicrous. This is in contrast to having a real anti-RKBA believer stand and fling obfuscating rationalizations which, while rebuttable, cannot be analyzed and vanquished in the time allotted.
Remember: we're in this AWB mess because the opposition succesfully spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt, while we spent the whole time trying to clean up the mess they were making. Reno (or the like) would just continue the FUD in the courtroom with a remarkable chance of success; Ashcroft cannot/willnot make a FUD defense, and is limited to plainly showing the legal house of cards making up the AWB.
It will be kept alive by administrative fiat.
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The plaintiffs in this court case. Further dissemination is irrelevant at this level.
I don't see the Feds giving up this power.
I don't see the current Feds keeping this power regardless. This administration is incapable of producing the kind of FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) via rabid obfuscations necessary to fight the legal facts involved in this case.
My question exposed my ignorance. I went back and re-read the article and have a better understanding of the proceedings. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best (ignoring that nagging doubt). Thanks for the polite "education".
Again, I disagree. A man of principal will not run away from an oportunity to do good in other areas, where he may be forced to enforce current laws, even though he disagrees with them.
Mark
LOL!! Are you insane? It will be even more vocal than the original bill being signed, because GW will re-sign it. Anyone who thinks he wont is out of their minds. The government NEVER gives back something they have stolen. No president will ever let this sunshine. The AW ban just gives them too much power.
A).Ashcroft took an oath as AG to uphold the law-ALL laws. Like it or not. Guess many here aren't use to having an AG that doesn't pick and choose the laws he/she wants to enforce. So unlike Janet Sterno.
B).Ashcroft first AG to interpret the Second Amendment as and INDIVIDUAL right as opposed to a COLLECTIVE right in many years. Remember how Corporal Klinton's Solicitor Gen. argued otherwise? Ashcroft has so instructed his 93 Fed. DAs accordingly.
C).Although unrelated to RKBA, when Ashcroft was Gov. of Missouri, our state was ranked 48th in TOTAL tax burden. After 3 years of Carnahan and the Democrats, we rose to EIGHTEENTH! Right up there with Kali, Mass, NY,etc.
D)As for NRA? They are already confronting pols on their views of letting the AW Ban "sunset." Posted on nraila.org or gomemphis.com as well as most of the gun boards.
If you long for the days of Rambo Reno? I'll see you on the beach...
Looks like the NRA frauds are getting what they asked for --"Enforcing the laws we have". Hope CFR helps.
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He shoulda stayed in the Senate and done all his 'good works' there.....oh, that's right.....he let a dead man beat him.....I forgot. Oops.....oh well.....hows about he just goes back home and bes a citizen living under all the rules and regs he helped formulate as one of the elites?
Ashcroft also swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, and has publicly stated that he believes in an individual right to KABA. Was he lying then or is he lying now?
Don't forget that Ashcroft is also continuing the prosecution of the Emerson case, with the same clinton appointed attack dogs who originally said that citizens have no "right" whatsoever to keep and bear arms.
They can't use the USvMiller argument here, as "Assault rifles" have demonstrated their usefullness and their intended purpose, the defense of the country.
We have to work together to increase our numbers. The NRA should have 8 million members which is ten per cent of the American gunowners. There is no reason why the SAS can't increase their numbers among the women shooter to 2 million. The GOA should have at least half the members of the NRA without trying to gut the NRA to expand.
The AW ban will only sunset if we have the votes to do so. It won't happen if we fight among ourselves.
Will the Moose make a cameo appearance?
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