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It's Ashcroft-Metzenbaum vs. NRA
The Plain Dealer - Cleaveland.com ^ | 04/20/2002 | Bill Sloat

Posted on 04/30/2002 12:11:21 AM PDT by Mini-14

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1 posted on 04/30/2002 12:11:21 AM PDT by Mini-14
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I find it illuminating that Cincinnait OHIO is reporting the largest exodus to the Kentucky side of the Ohio River. Ohio has Draconian Concealed Weapons prohibitions and a crime rate to prove it...not to mention a chronic race riot problem...Way to go Howard Metzenbaum...what a Legacy!!!
2 posted on 04/30/2002 1:01:48 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: Mini-14
Why bring this up now? The AW ban will quietly expire in less than 2 1/2 years. I don't like this at all.
5 posted on 05/01/2002 6:24:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Mini-14
the Second Amendment, which contains the clause granting Americans the right to bear arms

Who is this idiot? It's not a 'clause', it's the expressed meaning of the amendment.

6 posted on 05/01/2002 6:31:07 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Who is this idiot? It's not a 'clause', it's the expressed meaning of the amendment.

Both clauses of the 2nd amendment separately mean exactly the same thing.

7 posted on 05/01/2002 6:44:02 AM PDT by William Terrell
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To: William Terrell
You might enjoy this:

The Wording of the 2nd Amendment.

8 posted on 05/01/2002 6:49:44 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: Mini-14
Ashcroft has sure turned out to be a disappointment.
9 posted on 05/01/2002 6:52:21 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Mini-14
Let's see, the NRA gets Bush elected and Bush turns around and hires Anti-gun Senators to attack the NRA and its supporters in court. Every day Bush appears to be the liberal Keyes and Buchanan said he was.
13 posted on 05/01/2002 7:03:14 AM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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The only silver lining I could see, is that this old coot will botch his arguement and end up losing. Man, I know I'm grabbing at straws.
14 posted on 05/01/2002 7:08:46 AM PDT by stevio
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To: MRAR15Guy56
John 'Benedict Arnold' Ashcroft. Pro-Second Amendment my a@@. Sure glad GORE didn't win. Congratulations, ssssuuuuccckkkkerrrrssss

I disagree... I've followed John Ashcroft's career for many years, and I know that he's a man of very strong convictions. As he plainly stated during the "lynchings" that were his confirmation hearings, he would uphold laws that he personally disagreed with. He's doing his job, something that the DemonRATs could never fathom. Imagine, actually doing something that you've sworn you would, as opposed to trying to figure out ways around it. I would suggest that AG Ashcroft is doing his job, and probably following orders from above. Again, he swore to do the job.

Mark

16 posted on 05/01/2002 7:19:12 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: infowars ; ChareltonHest ; Harpseal ; Pocat ; SLB
Albeit I agree we're surrounded with RINO's I think if I wanted to present to an anti-gun lobby that I really tried to defeat the pro-constitutional RKBA effort. I would also use "their" champions previously loosing efforts and methods to ensure the 2nd amendment survived......and I still kissed @ss for votes from the gun grabbers as only a good little polidiot can.

Just a different way to approach this maybe ? Yes/No ? Comment s ??

Ya'll Stay Safe !

17 posted on 05/01/2002 7:56:02 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Blood of Tyrants
As we all know, this "debate"/litigation is over the State's power to control through regulation. Citizens have only the rights the government says they have, not the rights of our Constitution which limits powers of the State. We live "under penalty of law" while politicians act as though they are not temporary.

Ah, the Black Rifle. Once you go black, you never go back.

BLOAT. Cache is king.

18 posted on 05/01/2002 8:06:50 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: stevio
Break that straw with the little fact that the NRA lawyer apparently not knowing why they went to the Senate records of events regarding the legislation with which Metzenbaum was involved, and there could be real trouble here.

A visit to the thomas.loc.gov website and a little reading will reveal that the Courts look to the records of the various houses of Congress to help determine what it was the legislators intent with regards to the legislation in question.

19 posted on 05/01/2002 8:27:02 AM PDT by Rowdee
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To: MarkL
Of course, if he had strong convictions, he'd not have taken the job because he would have know issues like this and abortion would be on the burners during his tenure.
20 posted on 05/01/2002 8:29:02 AM PDT by Rowdee
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