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Kids told police dad hit daughter in head (Christine Trial)
oregonlive.com ^ | 5/01/02 | JEFF BARNARD

Posted on 05/01/2002 3:33:06 PM PDT by RGSpincich

Kids told police dad hit daughter in head

By JEFF BARNARD The Associated Press 5/1/02 5:21 PM

ROSEBURG, Ore. (AP) -- Brian and Ruth Christine's daughters told police that their father hit one of them in the head, causing her to fall down steps in the converted city bus they called home and cut her forehead, spreading "blood all over," a detective testified Wednesday.

Asked why he hadn't taken his daughter Lydia, then 3, to the hospital, Brian Christine "told me he was an Eagle Scout and he knew how to treat an injury," testified Grants Pass police detective Dan Evans.

"He told me his children were God's children, and if God chose to strike them down with lightning, that was his choice," Evans said.

The testimony came during a hearing on a defense motion to suppress evidence gathered when police first contacted the Christines in their bus on July 31, 2000, while it was parked at the library in Grants Pass in the course of their travels around the country.

The Christines, both 29, are on trial in Douglas County Circuit Court on charges of kidnapping, robbery, unauthorized use of a motor vehicle and custodial interference.

The state alleges that a year after social workers took the three girls into foster care to protect them from their parents, Brian Christine took the girls at gunpoint from a state social worker, met up with his wife and a friend, and escaped to Montana, where they were found within days.

In the course of pretrial motions, defense attorney Edgar Steele told Judge Robert Lasswell that he intended to present a "choice of evils defense," arguing that the Christines were rescuing their children from a state agency that was out of control.

Steele described the couple as fundamentalist Christians, who home-schooled their children and believed the state should not interfere with family life unless children were being harmed.

"They have seen their children taken to a hospital, stripped and examined in a sexual way," Steele said in describing his case. "The damage done to their children far exceeds anything they have done."

The Christines were allowed to see their children only once under supervision in the 12 months from the time they were taken into foster care and Aug. 1, when they took them from state social workers, Steele said.

"We've got a pair of parents that saw a local agency of government totally out of control -- acting illegally, acting immorally," Steele said. "They got (the children) out of harm's way."

According to Evans, police initially contacted the Christines after receiving an anonymous phone call reporting children who appeared malnourished. The family had been traveling the country in a city bus converted into a motor home, and had spent the past 45 days living at parks in the Grants Pass area.

Brian Christine sold computer software on an internet auction site, and routinely stopped at libraries to use the computers to check on his sales, Evans said.

Evans said four police officers were outside the Christines' bus in the parking lot behind the Josephine County Library when he was called in because he investigates allegations of child abuse.

Brian Christine sat in the driver's seat, his arms on the steering wheel, while Evans talked to the girls in the back. Miriam lay on her back, one arm over her head. Bethany and Miriam sat against a bed. Bethany was reading a book.

All the girls were very skinny, quiet and subdued, particularly Miriam, the youngest, Evans said. Lydia had a bandage on her forehead that had bled through and discoloration around one eye, he testified.

"I asked Lydia how she got the ow-ee," Evans said. "She told me she fell. Bethany was glancing at Brian. She said, `No you didn't.' Lydia glanced at Brian sitting up front and said, `Babba did it.' She told me blood was all over and it hurt very bad and she cried. I asked who Babba was and she pointed to Brian," Evans said.

"She said she was at the front of the bus and she peed. She said Babba was real mad," he testified.

Evans said when he asked Brian Christine if he had hit his daughter, he nodded, adding that he lost his temper and "tapped" her on the back of the head with his open hand and she fell.

Evans said he arrested Brian Christine on an assault charge and social workers took the three girls to a hospital.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: childabuse; christine
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To: UCANSEE2
The parents are not charged with kidnapping their own children. Hope that helps.
121 posted on 05/07/2002 6:13:51 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Then I am unclear on what the article says.

The Christines, both 29, are on trial in Douglas County Circuit Court on charges of kidnapping, robbery, unauthorized use of a motor vehicle and custodial interference.

Can you explain this to me ?

122 posted on 05/07/2002 7:50:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Demidog
Are you saying the kidnapping charges have been dismissed?

Maybe the reporter that wrote this article is mixing tenses.

123 posted on 05/07/2002 7:52:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Demidog
Who are they charged with kidnapping ?
124 posted on 05/07/2002 7:52:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Are you saying the kidnapping charges have been dismissed?

Yes and no. The kidnapping charges have been dropped in the case of the Children.

125 posted on 05/07/2002 8:29:07 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: UCANSEE2
They were charged with kidnapping their children. The State, after Steele sucessfully showed that the Supreme Court of Oregon has already ruled that it is improper to charge a parent of kidnapping his own children have decided to drop the counts which include the children and charge them with kidnapping the county workers. This in spite of the fact that the county workers were not transported anywhere and no ransom was demanded.
126 posted on 05/07/2002 8:33:05 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Thank you. You have provided info that was not in the posted article. Now I understand where you were coming from. (I thought for a while one of us was crazy !).

Anyway, thanks for being understanding.

127 posted on 05/08/2002 12:29:08 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
You are very gracious. But let's be clear, when I first said "how do you kidnap your own kids?" It was a matter of incredulity on the my part regarding the charges. I was asserting without any knowledge of what would occur with Steele's arguments. I didn't even know he'd argue the law in the manner he did let alone convince the State to drop the charges.
128 posted on 05/08/2002 1:22:54 AM PDT by Demidog
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