Posted on 05/01/2002 3:33:06 PM PDT by RGSpincich
He does seem to have a somewhat tenuous attachment to reality...
And a fixation on threads about parents who knock their children around.
I think that means he'll contact Demidog.
Tell me about busing---to begin with...what was that all about!
What's next?
POOBALL...
Please try to put your statements in some sort of context--it makes it easier for those of us who can't read minds to figure out what you're saying.
13 posted on 5/1/02 2:56 PM Hawaii-Aleutian by Poohbah
Where do you get your thinking--operations--orders from...janet reno?
Tough question...busing?
The Christines fired their court appointed attorney for this? From plea bargain to bargain basement. This is the kind of defense that would make the Grants Pass crowd proud. Of course, Brian and Ruth will have to serve the time but, hey, it's for the cause.
Believe it or not Steele uses the same rhetoric in his presentations to the court.
Brian says he didn't lose his temper and that Lydia wet the bed in an act of defiance. He just "tapped" her and then she lost her balance. She fell and received a minor cut according to Brian.
Ruth says she never saw Brian hurt any of the kids and that they didn't withhold food from their kids as a form of discipline.
The girls may have to testify to get to the truth in the mistreatment trial.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how you know this. Do you have some sort of inside information that the rest of us don't enjoy? Are you assuming that the state officials are telling the absolute truth and that these parents are guilty as charged?
The rest of us, even those of us who live in Oregon, pretty well have to rely on what we get from the press and from Ed Steele, both sources with an ax to grind. While I have a little knowledge of how Oregon's Children's Services Agency operates and therefore very little confidence in them, I will admit that they might be right in this case. Still, I don't have any real evidence that I can quote and unless you do, you're as bad as the media twits that you rely on. So please, let us know how you can be so certain of the guilt of these parents.
It's lame enough, but not lunatic enough.
Brian and Ruth Christine's daughters told police that their father hit one of them in the head, causing her to fall down steps in the converted city bus they called home and cut her forehead, spreading "blood all over," a detective testified Wednesday.Asked why he hadn't taken his daughter Lydia, then 3, to the hospital, Brian Christine "told me he was an Eagle Scout and he knew how to treat an injury," testified Grants Pass police detective Dan Evans.
What do you think, DD?
What the heck? The kid pees the bed and it's "an act of defiance"? Brian takes a pretty simple thing quite personally and quite badly. He "swats" her head and she hits it on a step but he says it is she who loses her balance?
As any parent can tell Brian, they grow up and get real cases of defiance. Luckily these girls are safely away from this nut for when they hit those years.
put stars of David on them and round them up--sieg hiel!
Only if they continue to blame the kid for their own bad behavior. Wetting the bed is not an act of defiance. Smacking her around is a proven loser maneuver . He comes to court nearly two years later and tries to place the blame of this child's injury squarely on the shoulders of the child. He shows no remorse and accepts no responsibility for the injury. He has had two years to figure this stuff out and he still doesn't have a clue.
It's called "not guilty." If you want to equate a not guilty plea with "accepts no responsibility" that's your call. But not everyone is silly enough to buy it as proof of guilt.
How he handled the situation with his daughter (shit happens sometimes) and how remorseful he was is not a matter for the state. We're talking about a one-time event and there is no evidence presented that this incident caused any serious damage.
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