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School may drop Lincoln holiday in favor of Cesar Chavaz birthday [California]
Oakland Tribune ^ | May 6, 2000 | Jason Bono

Posted on 05/07/2002 3:01:35 AM PDT by snopercod

SAN LEANDRO -- Abraham Lincoln may have to forfeit his solo holiday to Cesar Chavez on the San Leandro school calendar.

Beginning next year, Lincoln's holiday may be dropped to honor labor leader Cesar Chavez on his birthday, March 31, pending school board approval. Several board members have already expressed support for the idea.

The San Leandro Teachers Association voted last month to make the change; 65 percent were in favor.

"The diversity of our community is growing, and it looks beautiful and we want to honor our Latino families," said Thomas Morse, political action chairman for the union. "And the other reason, which is very important for union members, is that Cesar Chavez was a labor leader."

Because changing school holidays falls under labor contracts, the district's two other unions, the Classified School Employees Association and the Teamsters/Trade union, need to give support before the board can bump Lincoln.

"We can celebrate his memory when we have Presidents' Day," Morse said, referring to the district's day off on Feb. 18 this year, celebrated as Washington's Holiday.

Hayward schools have holidays for both Chavez's and Lincoln's birthdays. The issue has not yet been seriously discussed in Castro Valley or San Lorenzo.

Sina Fattahy, a member of San Leandro High School's Latinos Unidos club, said he would use a Cesar Chavez holiday to participate in rallies or get together with other Latinos.

"It won't change my opinion about that day and how I feel about it," said the 17-year-old senior. "That day is always a special day for me. It's a day that you feel pride for being Latino. It's a feeling of energy and power."

Though the issue is scheduled for action at the school board's regular meeting Tuesday, it likely will be scratched from the agenda, said Mike Martinez, the district's assistant superintendent for human resources.

Martinez said he is recommending it be removed to give the other unions more time to poll their memberships. Because the district wants to get its calendar out soon, a change to the Chavez holiday may have to wait until 2004.

San Leandro resident Paul Vargas, 33, said he is offended by the proposed change.

"They're taking away Lincoln's birthday. I mean, who do these people think they are? They're trying to rewrite history," said Vargas, who attended San Leandro schools from kindergarten to 12th grade.

Board member Louis Heystek said he came up with the idea after looking at the district's demographics. To the issue of rewriting history, he said, "I would hope that our view of history does not remain stagnant."

Heystek said Chavez has been not only a significant figure in Latino-American history, but in American history overall, for spearheading a movement to unionize workers and leading the United Farm Workers labor rights movement.

"That had an impact for minorities and Americans all over," Heystek said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: balkanization; multiculturalism; tribalism
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To: BurkeCalhounDabney
Thank you for reminding the conservatives of what the harvest of their fooling with PC has yielded. But then again conservatism these days means only two issues, Israel and tax cuts all others are simply not progressive enough and too contentious causing strain amongst the Left?Right duopoly.
61 posted on 05/07/2002 7:55:02 AM PDT by junta
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To: BillyBoy
That's baloney. I am proud of my Rebel roots, but replacing Lincoln's holiday with that of a foreign communist is sickening. The idiots on that school board ought to have the hell beat out of them.
62 posted on 05/07/2002 8:48:23 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: BillyBoy; billbears
The Klan done what they thought they had to right after the WBTS. Your union occupation troops and radical reconstruction ways was what made it needed. It got out a hand, but Forrest didn't mean for it to go that way. And he aint the one that formed it in the first place. He was probly the first wizard but knowbody even knows for sure.

Comparing the Klan right after the war and what you see today is like comparing the NAACP of the early 20's with Kweisi Enfume an his bunch a idiots.

Forrest is a hero and more a man than you'd a ever faced.

And billbears: why run off like a scared rat when this puff a hot air tries to wave a gutless race flag? The Klan wasnt right, but nothin was right in those first few years after the war. You know that. We may not a been right in all we done but we did what we thought we had to do.

63 posted on 05/07/2002 8:52:24 AM PDT by willide
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To: snopercod
You mean Mr. No Grapes is more important than Lincoln? How is this possible in California...
64 posted on 05/07/2002 8:54:23 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: willide
I wan't running. I considered the source and wasn't worth a response. Anyone that surfs these threads knows full well I am not a racist by any means and support the Confederate troops of all races that fought for their nation
65 posted on 05/07/2002 8:55:39 AM PDT by billbears
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To: happygrl
So true!!
66 posted on 05/07/2002 9:03:06 AM PDT by glory
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To: snopercod
Ahaha, watch the Lincoln worshippers screech when they get a dose of their own revisionist medicine. So, the Californicators are replacing Massa Abe with a communist wetback. Let'em whine and cry now. We've been telling them for years that siding with the commies against the Confederates would lead them to this. It's ridiculous to honor Lincoln anyway. That it's more ridiculous to honor Chavez is a moot point.
67 posted on 05/07/2002 9:17:28 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: snopercod
This ought to piss off the African-American community...whether or not it will remains to be seen.

Anyway, union goons already have their own holiday with Labor Day. And Latinos already have Cinco de Mayo, celebrated in enough communities in California, virtually a state holiday in its own right. And any holiday that celebrates a victory over the French is A-OK in my book. :)

I think that was Oakland.
68 posted on 05/07/2002 9:27:58 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: one_particular_harbour
"I generally use 'em as an excuse to sleep in and do yardwork....."

Sleep in; do yardwork; but also do something for your countrymen who are dying and being maimed overseas to protect you.

AMERICA REMEMBERS: VetsCoR/FRN Memorial Day Project

69 posted on 05/07/2002 11:11:32 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: snopercod
"We can celebrate his memory when we have Presidents' Day," Morse said..."

Why not just celebrate Chavez' memory when we have Labor Day and leave Lincoln alone?

70 posted on 05/07/2002 11:20:20 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: StockAyatollah
Go peddle it to Taki.
71 posted on 05/07/2002 11:27:01 AM PDT by j.havenfarm
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To: gr8eman
Chavez was certainly no conservative but neither was Lincoln. Chavez was VERY Catholic and organized his United Farmworkers Union (AFL-CIO) by using a statue of Our Lady of Guadalupe as a rallying standard, using prayer, arguing for the dignity of the farm laborers. He was also very outspokenly pro-life. He died of heart trouble at an early age.

Unlike Lincoln, Chavez also did not bring about or attempt to bring about the death of 600,000 Union folks and Confederates in order to force the latter to remain in the Union in violation of Amendment X of the Constitution. Why choose between them? you can have them both. We also have Martin Luther King Day. We might also want to honor Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Jefferson davis, et al. Diversity need not be all left.

72 posted on 05/07/2002 11:36:11 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: BillyBoy
They won't be happy until Lincoln's face on Mt. Rushmore is bulldozed and replaced with a racist southern DemocRAT who shares their values. (Maybe Woodrow Wilson?)

Actually, as a southerner, I'd like to see Reagan's face replace Lincoln's face on Mt. Rushmore. But that is just my opinion on it.

But seeing how they'll all big fans of secession-on-demand, any step towards "Arzlan" will have their support.

Hey you should look at your OWN politicians, they are the ones directly and indirectly supporting the creation of "Arzlan". I, as a southerner, just find great humor in the irony of the situation.

73 posted on 05/07/2002 11:37:01 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: snopercod
LOL! Just realized that Cesar Chavez already has a state holiday of his own (a paid one) -- March 31 -- signed into law by none other than Grey Davis two years ago. So I'm wondering why these idiots in San Leandro want a second one for him.
74 posted on 05/07/2002 11:44:07 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
"Why not just celebrate Chavez' memory when we have Labor Day and leave Lincoln alone?"

Because that won't achieve their objective.

75 posted on 05/07/2002 11:47:56 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: one_particular_harbour
That will balance things off since it was a very liberal Lincoln. Read his sorry drivel on the floor of Congress during his one and only term against the Mexican War: "This chamber stands knee deep in blood....." His rhetoric was ripped off without attribution by McGovern in railing against the Vietnam War in his capacity as Senate leader of the Americong. Folks in Springfield brought Young Abe back in disgrace after his one and only term. He was the choice of 39% of the 1860 voters in a four-way race with the Democrats (Jacksonian not Clintonian) divided three ways and getting 61% among them. Secession resolutions resulted almost immediately.

As with JFK and RFK, getting assassinated may be painful but it sure can retroactively sanitize one's reputation and work wonders for your place in history.

76 posted on 05/07/2002 11:48:00 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: snopercod
Cesar Chavez Day (March 31) signed into law by Gray Davis on August 18, 2000.

Again, why eliminate Lincoln's birthday and replace it with a second Cesar Chavez day?

77 posted on 05/07/2002 11:49:06 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: one_particular_harbour
Why am I not surprised?

I have been meaning to ask: Why do you regard yourself as a conservative? Issues and specifics, please. And accomplishments.

Was Sherman/Sheridan's total war against women and children in the war crime known as the March to the sea (which even included the purposeful burning of some of the greatest private libraries of the South whose books would have been welcome in the libraries of Northern Unitarians) justified because they later treated the Plains Indians similarly? Inquiring minds want to know.

78 posted on 05/07/2002 11:53:56 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: snopercod
What many have feared - the Latinos are gaining power in the minority community.
79 posted on 05/07/2002 11:55:57 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: billbears
Lincoln's wife was a slaveowner as was Grant's and Grant was renting them out illegally to mineowners in Southern Illinois where slavery was quite illegal.
80 posted on 05/07/2002 11:58:29 AM PDT by BlackElk
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