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Christines guilty of robbery, acquitted of kidnapping (Christine Trial Ends)
oregonlive ^ | 5/10/02 | LANDON HALL

Posted on 05/10/2002 9:38:38 PM PDT by RGSpincich

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To: TruthWillWin
The FR needs an "ignore filter"

No kidding.

Christines' custodial case ends in convictions

05/11/02

ALICE TALLMADGE

ROSEBURG -- A jury convicted Brian and Ruth Christine on Friday of robbery, custodial interference and stealing a state van while taking their three small children from state social workers last summer.

But the couple were acquitted of kidnapping the two state employees caring for the children.

After a week of testimony, the panel of 10 women and two men deliberated for about three hours before delivering the unanimous verdicts.

Douglas County Circuit Judge William Lasswell set sentencing for May 28.

Ruth Christine put her head in her hands and sobbed when the verdict was read, then turned to her supporters in the courtroom and said, "I love you guys." Authorities then took her into custody. Brian Christine, who has been in custody since his arrest last year, showed no emotion.

The Christines were accused of taking their children at gunpoint from state social workers on Aug.1 at an Interstate 5 rest stop. The children -- Bethany, 6; Lydia, 4, and Miriam, 3 -- had been in protective custody for a year following allegations of neglect.

The jury found that Brian Christine used a gun during the crimes, which could lengthen his sentence.

The Christines' attorney, Edgar Steele, said he would appeal the verdicts.

"I'm flabbergasted by this result. That they would actually get hit with any of those Measure 11 charges just stuns me," he said.

Brian Christine was accused of forcing social workers Terrence Nelson and Jennifer Barrett out of their state van at gunpoint after a supervised visit with the girls in Grants Pass. Christine drove off with the van and the children. He was stopped for speeding three days later in Montana. The girls and Ruth Christine were found the next day at a remote Montana residence.

Deputy District Attorney Rick Wesenberg was pleased with the verdict and speculated that jurors may have acquitted the couple of the kidnapping charges because that was incidental to the robbery.

"I think that the jury was looking at this act principally as a robbery: the armed taking of a vehicle at gunpoint," he said. "It fits the terms of robbery better than kidnapping."

Although the kidnapping charges involved the social workers, much of the trial focused on the condition of the girls. Steele insisted to the jury that the state had no valid reason to take the girls from their parents in July 2000, making the Christines desperate.

"They've only done one thing -- they tried to destroy this family. And they've done it," Steele said, his eyes tearing up. "They've destroyed a beautiful family -- and that ain't right."

But Wesenberg said in his closing argument that the Christines broke the law.

"What this case comes down to is choices," Wesenberg told the jury. "Now it's time for these two defendants to deal with the consequences of their choices."

Wesenberg said he wanted the trial to focus just on the charges but admitted that would have been naive given the "hoo-ha" surrounding why the girls were taken into protective custody.

The final witness was emergency room physician Jim Giesen, who testified that the Christine children were "very emaciated" when he saw them at Three Rivers Community Hospital in Grants Pass.

Giesen described a wound on Lydia's head that emitted such a foul odor that some of the emergency room staff were forced to leave the room. He also noted bruising around her right eye and blood behind her right ear drum, both indications of a skull fracture. Subsequent X-rays confirmed the diagnosis, he said.

But Miriam's condition upset the staff the most, he said.

"She was a quiet, withdrawn, noninteractive child," he said. "She looked like somebody from Africa or Ethiopia. None of us had ever seen a child in this condition in all our years in the ER."

The three girls have been adopted by their maternal grandparents in England. The Christines' two youngest children are in the custody of Brian Christine's mother, who lives in Indiana.

You can reach Alice Tallmadge at 541-741-6256 or by e-mail at a.tallmadge@worldnet.att.net.

41 posted on 05/11/2002 6:59:29 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Brian Christine tried to comfort his wife, who was sitting next to him, but was stopped by a deputy.

Whatever else may be said of events, the above was ill done by the deputy -- needlessly cruel, IMNSHO.

Tuor

42 posted on 05/11/2002 7:11:27 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: f.Christian; Prodigal Daughter
>The Christines, both 29, face minimum prison sentences of 7½ years on the robbery charges. Brian Christine will face an additional five years for pointing a gun at child welfare workers last August to take his three daughters -- Bethany, then 5; Lydia, 3; and Miriam, 2.
 

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A Christian family is broken up, the parents are falsely accused and go to jail while these monsters are free!
The republic is no longer free!  The killers have taken over!

43 posted on 05/11/2002 7:27:02 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: RGSpincich
But for Brian and Ruth Christine, the jury's decision spelled total defeat.

But their racist loser attorney got his face time on national TV. The Christines were used one more time.

44 posted on 05/11/2002 7:35:48 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

BTTT

45 posted on 05/11/2002 7:38:06 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: 2sheep
The republic is no longer free!

Chicken Little.

Burris and Brian become bunk buddies.

46 posted on 05/11/2002 7:38:36 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: RGSpincich
I'm sorry -- but the conviction for robbery in this case is a bit much -- particularly since they did not intend to keep the van or the case workers' possessions -- and in today's legal world, "intent" plays such a big role in determining guilt or innocence. 7.5 years minimum for driving the van with their property in it a few miles and then leaving it and their property unmolested -- give me a break.

If this had been anyone else -- car thieves stealing from private citizens for joy riding for example -- the prosecutor would have opted for something less than robbery. But you see this case is a private citizens using property belonging to state officials -- a totalitarian state "no-no". !!!! They might have been so lucky as to be treated as car thieves who, even after deadly car chases, get less than 6 months incarceration.

The one good thing resulting from the publicity in this case is that the children didn't wind up in the hands of the state of Oregon and its sanctioned child-abusing surrogates, but under the care of the grandparents. One wonders that had the Christines not done what they did, whether their children would be with the grandparents now or in the home of some alternative lfestyle fosterparent for which Oregon is well-known.

A little extra money in the hands of these parents, or perhps the offer by the state of free medical care and food for the children, without having to terminate their parental rights to the state first, might have gone a long way to helping the family. But no -- that would mean that the state is a magnanimous institution that gives out free lunches. It is really in the business of controlling the lives of its citizens not for their sake but for the state's sake.

Perhaps the judge and jury will have some second thoughts and sleepless nights before the sentencing phase --- perhaps --

47 posted on 05/11/2002 7:40:07 AM PDT by Woodkirk
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To: Woodkirk
Armed carjacking.
48 posted on 05/11/2002 7:42:47 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: 2sheep
A Christian family is broken up, the parents are falsely accused and go to jail

Did you read the same article I did? Or are you so blinded by your paranoia of child protective services, that you'll believe anything?

The doctor testified the following:

The emergency-room doctor who treated the girls at Three Rivers Community Hospital in Grants Pass was the last witness to testify. Dr. James Giesen said he had never seen children so emaciated. Two-year-old Miriam was so small she looked like a famine victim from "Biafra or Ethiopia," Giesen said.

He said the girls showed obvious signs of abuse and neglect. Ruth Christine told the doctor that her husband had struck Lydia, causing her to fall down some stairs. Giesen said X-rays and a CAT scan revealed a fracture at the base of her skull. Also, she had a cut on the right side of her forehead that had not healed, and the wound was so badly infected that it gave off a bacterial smell of feces.

"The odor almost overwhelmed the room," Giesen said. "A couple of us stepped out."

These are your "Christian family?" No, they are devils straight from the pit of hell. I've come into professional contact with abused children-- and I must say, anyone who would injure a child is the lowest of the low. Jesus Christ indictated as much, too. "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." (Mat 18:6).

I'll save my tears for someone who actually deserves it. These guys deserve to rot in jail for the rest of their natural lives. The criminal justice system, once again, worked.

49 posted on 05/11/2002 7:45:17 AM PDT by jude24
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To: RGSpincich
The guy and gal who were forced out of the van at gunpoint and forced to leave their belongings behind may feel differently. Their belongings and the van were then taken from their possesion.

It doesn't matter how they feel. They didn't own the van. The intent to rob was obviously not there.

50 posted on 05/11/2002 7:46:55 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
They didn't own the van. The intent to rob was obviously not there.

Brian didn't own the van that he took by force at gunpoint.

Looks like you didn't get that OJ jury you were hoping for.

51 posted on 05/11/2002 7:51:52 AM PDT by Roscoe
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Their belongings and the van were then taken from their possesion.

Reading minds? Their "intent" is an afterthought.

52 posted on 05/11/2002 7:51:55 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Roscoe
you didn't get that OJ jury you were hoping for.

Seem to remember having this conversation and somebody's assurance about respecting the jury's decision.

53 posted on 05/11/2002 7:55:01 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
somebody's assurance about respecting the jury's decision

Looks like you didn't get that OJ jury you were hoping for.

54 posted on 05/11/2002 7:56:45 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: jude24
You have chosen Barabbas.  There are eternal consequences.
55 posted on 05/11/2002 7:58:02 AM PDT by 2sheep
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Huh????

Barabbas? Rhetoric aside, disprove my point...

56 posted on 05/11/2002 7:58:57 AM PDT by jude24
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To: 2sheep
"You have chosen Barabbas. There are eternal consequences."-Roy Masters?
57 posted on 05/11/2002 8:00:21 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
You and Roscoe should get a room where you can gloat together. Most reasonable people wouldn't consider what Brian did "robbery."
58 posted on 05/11/2002 8:02:37 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: jude24
I'll save my tears for someone who actually deserves it. These guys deserve to rot in jail for the rest of their natural lives. The criminal justice system, once again, worked.

A fascist attitude in support of fascist actions by the fascist state of Oregon 'protective services'.

Personally, my heart aches for a family that that has been destroyed by the very people charged with helping families.

You can crow all you want, but this is not a victory for justice, it is a travesty of justice...and a very sad day for our republic.

59 posted on 05/11/2002 8:06:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Demidog
I consider them kidnappers (the kids), too. But you don't hear me complaining about that. The law has it's ins and outs.
60 posted on 05/11/2002 8:13:13 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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