Will Third Parties Run to Victory?

Insight Magazine ^ | May 13, 2002 | Sam MacDonald

[BlackbirdSST]

BS. My Republican rep is conservative and pro-life.

Congrats! I salute your luck of the draw! Blackbird.

[Texasforever]

Sooner or later you people are gonna have to get your heads out of your collective asses, and help us rebuild this once Great Republic. That ain't gonna happen with Dems/Repubs. How many more decades of history do we need to observe? Blackbird.

You folks that have set yourselves up as the "saviors of the Republic" are as dangerous to the Republic as the Black Panthers and Tim Mcveigh. If the only damn issue the Libertarians run on is legalized drugs then to hell with them and the hell with the “super patriots”.

[11th Earl of Mar]

You complain that Bush has not done enough good as he should. While at the same time you have not named one significant victory Pat Buchanan has won for conservatives in America.

That says a lot.

Like they say, it is easier to be critical than correct. Pat knows that. It is how he has made his living.

[ChadGore]

Victory for Bush 2004 = Split the liberal protest vote.

[185JHP]

I don't need to know any more about the LP or the Browneian Movement - but if I did, them targeting Bob Barr would suffice.

[Bush2000]

Congrats! I salute your luck of the draw! Blackbird.

What you're really complaining about are not rank-and-file Congress/Senate members but the president. Ideological leanings vary hugely between congressional districts. And it's unfair to tar the entire Republican party on the basis of RINOs that don't represent the heart of the party.

[Bush2000]

One might argue that anything you've listed here can creep in as an issue at any given moment. None of this has been wiped off the slate.

That's a moot point. Legislation can also wipe out previous legislation. But I think I've amply demonstrated that Bush has lived up to most of his campaign promises.

[gcruse]

 Bob Barr is one of the best friends of liberty in the House.

I suppose I thought so too, until I learned he had
pushed through a bill to make it ILLEGAL for
some issues to be voted on in Washington D.C.
Referendum or no, the issue could not legally
be put up for a vote.  The people were not
even allowed to decide.  If that is the hallmark
of the best friend of liberty in the House,  I don't see it.

[Valin]

Care to put your 2 cents in?

[Starwind]

Vote your conscience, if you will, but don't be surprised when Democrats end up making laws that govern your existence...

I have voted my conscience all my life…especially for Reagan (truly the last conservative and last of a dying breed), and again for Bush Sr…especially because I believed his “no new taxes pledge”…since then, I am no longer surprised when Republicans now end up making the same (Democrat) laws that govern my existence.

The Republican party walked away from me. My conscience (and what I vote for) has not changed…Bush Sr’s tax deal, Republican failure to even try Clinton in the Senate, and now conceivably Bush W’s seeming reversal on constitutional issues (let alone conservative issues) indicate that his conscience (his faith notwithstanding) rather than my conscience has changed. My vote matters enough to me personally that I expect pledges for my vote to be kept and the laws upheld. Period. Reagan stood his ground and I see no reason why Bush can’t either. I suspect most of us would stand together with him.

But if Bush (Rino’s) won’t stand for what I believe, then I’ll stand alone..

[Bob J]

No.

[BlackbirdSST]

You folks that have set yourselves up as the "saviors of the Republic" are as dangerous to the Republic as the Black Panthers and Tim Mcveigh. If the only damn issue the Libertarians run on is legalized drugs then to hell with them and the hell with the “super patriots”.Yeah you're right, the hell with us. To coin a very poll driven popular phrase, yo're either with us, or yo're agin us. At least our goals aren't ever changing to match the wind. Let's see your reaction when our borders are completely overrun. Where will you stand when you are subject to Mexican dictate in what used to be part of America? And once again I'll remind you, I'm no Libertarian. Your attempt to bring drugs into this debate, where I haven't seen drugs mentioned once BTW, won't wash. Seeing how you can't have a conversation without hitting on the topic, who really has the problem? As much as you would like to be insulting, the term "Super Patriot", has a nice ring to it, thanks. Blackbird.

[Twodees]

That's the biggest lie of all, boy. The only votes that go to the democrats are votes cast for them. That tactic is typical of where your party stands All you people have to sell is fear. Nothing your candidates have been promising for the past 20 years has had the vaguest resemblance to what your party's congress members do once in office.

The difference between the democrats and the republicans is that a democrat politician will say, "Bend over, boy. I'm gonna feel your pain", while a republican politician drops a counterfeit dollar on the floor and says, "Hey, did you drop that?" Once you bend over for either of them the result is the same.

[Twodees]

That isn't nearly enough, Doc. While a few of Bush's appointees are allright, the rest of them are as bad as Gore could have dug up, if not the same people Gore would have appointed. Look at Tenet and Mueller. Gore would have appointed both without batting an eye. Look at Minetta and Whitman. In fact, look at the Sec'State. Bush's few conservative moves aren't enough to balance his overall liberal agenda.

The stand against the ICC world court is good, but it's the kind of thing that is the bare minimum one would expect of a conservative, not some hugely masterful stance. It's also something that can be instantly undone by a successor.

[Linda Liberty]

Fortunately, Thompson, the LP gubinatorial candidate in Wisconsin, has celebrity; and Wisconsin allows same day registration... the two factors you cite in Ventura's win.

[Twodees]

Bush campaigned as a democrat anyway, in 2000. Since he got into office, he's been working on merging the two parties in Congress the way he did in the Texas legislature. He's a 'uniter" allright. He unites the two parties by shutting down republican opposition to the democrat agenda. The people who blindly follow him are as bad as he is himself. Bunch of imbecilic liberals shrieking that they're the only real conservatives.

[Snuffington]

Fortunately, Thompson, the LP gubinatorial candidate in Wisconsin, has celebrity; and Wisconsin allows same day registration... the two factors you cite in Ventura's win.

Sounds like that case would be a parallel. I'll keep an eye on it.