Will Third Parties Run to Victory?

Insight Magazine ^ | May 13, 2002 | Sam MacDonald

[sheltonmac]

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Will Third Parties Run to Victory?

No.

Will Third Parties Ruin Victory?

Yes.

[KC_Conspirator]

Those are the correct answers

[billbears]

Will Anything change as long as Socialist (democrat) and Socialist Lite (republican) continue to run the game?

NO

Will this nation continue to have its freedoms limited as long as these two parties are in power?

YES

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[Redleg Duke]

The brigadeers and brownies will do their usual bashing and whining and siphoning votes away from Conservatives and then spend the next two years, a) complaining about the DemocRATs in power or b) complaining that the Republicans aren't any different than the DemocRATs.

Either way, they are marginal fringes whose only use is by the DemocRATs to undermine their opponents and they are not taken seriously by anyone except their own narrow focus group.

They cannot construct. They can only destroy or obstruct. Hey, they sound like DemocRATs to me!

[Lexington Green]

Both major parties are hopelessly corrupt... both are stealing our freedom.... screw 'em

[sheltonmac]

Will Third Parties Ruin Victory?
Yes.

Will they ruin victory for the Dems, GOP, or both? It seems that in every election there are left-wing parties taking as many votes away from the Democrats as conservative/libertarian parties are taking away from the Republicans. Wouldn't it then balance out? For example, in the last presidential election, Ralph Nader received more votes (2,882,955) than Harry Browne, Pat Buchanan and Howard Phillips combined (931,346).

(Source: http://fecweb1.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm)

[BlackbirdSST]

Will Third Parties Run to Victory? No. Will Third Parties Ruin Victory? Yes.

What was the excuse for the ruination of this Republic before the Third Parties made the National scene?

Will the two entrenched National Parties Run to Victory? Absolutely YES.

Will the two entrenched National Parties depend soley on their "bots" for support? Another absolute.

Sooner or later you people are gonna have to get your heads out of your collective asses, and help us rebuild this once Great Republic. That ain't gonna happen with Dems/Repubs. How many more decades of history do we need to observe? Blackbird.

[freeeee]

Want some third party votes?

They're yours for the taking. But you have to earn 'em.

Run consitutional candidates like Ron Paul, and I'll abandon my third party candidates in a heartbeat.

If not, and you let the R's power brokers dictate the results of primaries, and continue to run police state candidates, then you'll never get my vote.

It's just that easy.

[=Intervention=]

I agree. I find it hilarious that people who care so much for freedom and liberty can't bring themselves to exercise that freedom to vote for someone besides Democrats or Republicans. Think, people, think!!! I'd vote for a Constitutionalist Libertarian over a RINO every day! It's all about knowing the issues, knowing the candidates, and having the guts to vote based on your conscience, rather than a follow-the-leader sheeple mentality...

[ppaul]

The adherents of so-called third-parties would have much more success if they would build their power bases (if they have one worth any mention) within the national parties. Then, they'd be a force to be reckoned with. If they stay outside the party as a third party, they will lose. Show me an example from recent history where that is not the rule. If you are smart, and you have a following, take over the national party - don't be marginalized by going th e T.P. route. That's exactly what the major party establishment wants you to do. That is how they maintain their stranglehold.

[Sam Cree]

"Will Anything change as long as Socialist (democrat) and Socialist Lite (republican) continue to run the game?"

LOL, that is an accurate characterization. I see the Greens, though, as a purer form of socialists yet, only disguised by their name.

[sheltonmac]

"If they stay outside the party as a third party, they will lose. Show me an example from recent history where that is not the rule."

Gov. Jesse Ventura here in Minnesota—and by a large margin over the Dem. and Rep. candidates. Of course I wasn't one of the ones who voted for him, thank goodness!

[ppaul]

Ventura is an exception to the rule.

[ex-snook]

Thanks for the ping.

Third Parties are the only way to impact the views of the converging direction of the establishment parties. Winning isn't getting elected, it is moving the pile on issues.

Dole wouldn't even read the grass roots platform, so the GOP nominated Bush not McCain. If Bush can't read any better than Dole, then he will have a problem. BTW since Bush ran as a conservative, there must be a dozen conservative things he has accomplished. Anyone care to mention the main 3 or 4?

[bassmaner]

A spokesman for Barr says he, too, is unaware of the LP strategy, but in a written statement to Insight the congressman does not shrink from the challenge: "I'm proud to be the antidrug anti-constitution candidate in this race. … I have been a leader in the war against [illegal] drugs Americans and if the pro-drug pro-freedom folks want to target me with negative ads then that tells me I've been doing a good job in that effort."

As more and more CONSERVATIVE Americans wake up to the folly of the INSANE War on Drugs, fascists like Barr will eventually be sent packing. Drug prohibition is a statist, left-wing agenda: live it, learn it, love it.

Help take back our God-given birthright of liberty: vote LIBERTARIAN whenever a Drug Warrior is up for re-election, be he Pubbie or Rat.

[verity]

Why should I vote for a librarian?