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Schlussel: Will America Be the Next France?
Townhall.com ^ | May 14, 2002 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 05/14/2002 6:32:11 AM PDT by vance

Debbie Schlussel - Will America Be the Next France?

Will America be the next France—and become a radical Muslim country?

Or will it remain the home of the free and the brave?

That depends upon whether you agree with President Bush or Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colorado) on immigration.

Bush wants to open the floodgates and Tancredo wants real reform.

Bush wants amnesty for all illegal immigrants currently in the U.S.—to grant them citizenship. This will be the last time, he promises. We’ve heard this before. In the ‘80s, Congress passed identical illegal immigrant amnesty legislation. That was the last time they’d ever do it. They promised. But now is really the last, last time. Or so they claim, until the next time, which will be the last, last, last time. And so on.

To add insult to injury, Bush, with the aid of Arab-American Congressmen, like Hezbollah mega-fan Darrell Issa (a/k/a Jihad Darrell) (R-California) and Nick Joe Rahall (D-WV), have repeatedly passed legislation to make it easier for undesirables to immigrate to this country.

Why is Bush doing this? That’s easy. We are being shamelessly henpecked by Mexican President Vicente Fox and a host of pro-immigration radical Muslim groups operating within our borders. They know that the amnesty program doesn’t differentiate between Mexican illegals and those who pledge loyalty to Al-Quaida while planning homicide bombings and other terrorism.

Instead of thinking, “Gee, the Census reported at least 100,000 illegal Middle Eastern immigrants, all of whom are potential terrorists,” White House political director Ken Mehlman and senior Bush political advisor Karl Rove took Tancredo to the woodshed.

Rep. Tancredo, head of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, complained that Bush’s “open door” border could lead to more terrorism on our shores. “Then the blood of the people killed will be on this administration and this Congress.”

If we do not listen to Tancredo, President Bush will help make this country into a nation ruled by radical Islam—maybe even democratically elected, at first.

That’s France’s problem. With few controls on immigration, there are now between 5 and 10 million Muslim Arabs in that country of 60 million. The range in numbers of Muslims there is so vast because nobody knows for sure exactly how many there are. One thing is for sure: in the next 50 to 100 years—maybe sooner—France will become a Muslim nation. Demographics dictate it.

There is a reason Yasser Arafat’s wife, Suha, and daughter reside in safety and comfort in France. The country is dominated by Arab Muslim immigrants from North African countries--Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. Tunisia, by the way, was home to Arafat and his terrorists for much of his pre-Palestinian Authority exile.

Remember Zaccarias Moussaoui, now standing trial as the would-be 20th hijacker of 9-11? He’s a French national of Algerian descent. (Last summer, before 9-11, French intelligence warned the FBI that he received training in Al-Quaida camps. But while in France, he was untouched by those same authorities—just as his computer hard-drive was untouched by our authorities prior to 9-11, due to an over-abundance of Bush political correctness.)

Right now, Islam is the second largest religion in France. There would be nothing wrong with that, if it were a moderate form of Islam, such as Sufism. But the raging anti-Semitism and violent crime-wave of gangs that has accompanied the increase in Muslim immigration and birth in France is illustrative of radical Islam. Don’t like the wilding of New York’s Central Park thugs, or the gangs of South Central? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

Come to France’s city of Roubaix, which The Atlantic’s Christopher Caldwell nicknames “The Harlem of France.” With over 40 percent immigrants, mostly Middle-Eastern, unemployment is 26 percent, crack and other drug use is high, and so is welfare dependence. The unions, controlled by “Maghrebians” (North Africans, ie., Arabs) only hire Maghrebians. Violence rules.

Aside from the massive Arab Muslim immigration, there is French reproduction. It’s no coincidence that France was one of the first countries to use RU-486. Its non-Muslim Arab population practices birth control like nobody’s business. They are not reproducing much. Contrast that with the high birthrate of Muslims in France, most of whom are religious and do not use birth control.

None of these factors is exclusive to France. They can, will, and already have been exported to the U.S. due to lax immigration restraints. That is why groups like the Dearborn, Michigan-based Arab American Political Action Committee—a group whose officials support homicide bombers--stressed relaxed immigration policy as a requirement for endorsing candidates at all levels. That included endorsed candidate George W. Bush, who fiercely competed with Al Gore for that endorsement.

It is also why groups like Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)—a Hamas front-group, according to former FBI Counterterrorism Chief Oliver “Buck” Revell—support weak immigration restraints. In 1993, CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper told the Minneapolis Star Tribune, "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future."

Similarly, Islamic Society of North America President and Hamas supporter Muzammil Siddiqi, said, "Allah's rules have to be established in all lands, and all our efforts should lead to that direction." (Pakistan Link, "Issues and Questions," Oct. 18, 1996). He’s the one who delivered the Muslim prayer at the National Cathedral Service and then hung out with the President at the White House, just after 9-11.

President Bush is a little too comfortable with radical Islamists who support free immigration to the U.S. with subversive motives. Like he said, “You’re either on our side or the terrorists’ side.”

I know on which side Congressman Tancredo is. The question is, on whose side is President Bush?

America must not become La Prochaine (Next) France.


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1 posted on 05/14/2002 6:32:11 AM PDT by vance
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To: vance
Not only does she make sense, but she's good-looking as well (like many other conservative spokeswomen).

Speaking of unchecked immigration, some guy from India (working as a taxidriver and without a valid license) called the Howie Carr show yesterday and said he intended to stay in America and that there was nothing wrong with what he was doing. Howie couldn't get it through his head that he was breaking the law on several points: his illegal stay here, and his violation of workplace and driving rules. He thought he was entitled to stay just because he wanted to! We need to stamp that mentality out, and remind these people that they are guests in our country. We make the rules, not them.

2 posted on 05/14/2002 6:46:22 AM PDT by Tancred
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To: vance
”if we are outside this country we can say O Allah, destroy America, but once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it...There is no way for Muslims to be violent in America, no way. We have other means...to do it. You can be violent anywhere else but in America.”
--- Abdulrahman Alamoudi, former Executive Director of the American Muslim Council, Annual Conference of the Islamic Association for Palestine, Chicago, December 29, 1996.
3 posted on 05/14/2002 6:51:01 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: vance
There's some good points in the column. There a problem, however:

There is a reason Yasser Arafat’s wife, Suha, and daughter reside in safety and comfort in France. The country is dominated by Arab Muslim immigrants from North African countries--Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. Tunisia, by the way, was home to Arafat and his terrorists for much of his pre-Palestinian Authority exile.

Suha Arafat is Christian. Although some say she renounced Christianity, when she married Yasser, she did have their daughter baptized. This has caused some controversy in the Palestinian Muslim community.

It doesn't make Suha particularly praiseworthy, but the reason she's living in France may be as much to protect her and her daughter from the more radically Islamicist elements, as much as because of the Arab population there.

4 posted on 05/14/2002 7:19:14 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: vance
This will be the last time, he promises. We’ve heard this before.

And politicians never seem to understand why people don't like them or believe them. Are they really that dense?

5 posted on 05/14/2002 7:27:19 AM PDT by serinde
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To: vance
Her argument may be sound but the premise of the article is an untruth. Bush does not want all iillegals made citizenns. He wants an extension of the time allowed so that the very slow INS can catch up with the paperwork many of these people have already filed in the alloted time. Typical fare of the left. Great argument about a lie.
6 posted on 05/14/2002 7:50:33 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: dorben
Why not put the efforts towards reforming the INS instead?
7 posted on 05/14/2002 7:58:02 AM PDT by Uncle Sausage
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To: Uncle Sausage
Where is the IRS reform? Oh yes our politicians think coddling illegal aliens has a higher priority than safeguarding our borders. They have such wonderful priorities after 9-11. If they continue down the road they're going down upon, they shouldn't be surprised to witness a home grown Le Pen emerge here.
8 posted on 05/14/2002 8:42:53 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Uncle Sausage
Why not do both, as the President has proposed?
9 posted on 05/14/2002 8:44:24 AM PDT by big gray tabby
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To: vance
It is to be hoped that France will eventually wake up--at least 18% did, even in the face of an incredible smear campaign, nine days ago--and elect to remain France.

But closer at hand, we have to reexamine a lot of premises about immigration. And we are already years late in doing so. (See Immigration & The American Future.)

The article is a good article, in that it points out how immigration can change a country's ability to make necessary decisions in its own interest. But I think it is a mistake to focus on the Moslem aspect of immigration. Most American immigration, today, is from Latin America. The point is, that a Nation is not a game of "musical chairs." It matters, it matters terribly, who occupies those chairs. And you do not need to put anyone else down, to assert that you want your neighbors to continue to be those with whom you share a sense of kinship; those who have similar value system, march to a similar tempo, share a common cultural legacy; whose ancestors fought the same battles and won the same victories, whether in war or peace, as your ancestors.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

11 posted on 05/14/2002 9:00:31 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: vance
Hysterical. This woman knows nothing about how things truly are in France. I really urge all these people who absolutely want to voice a strong opinion on a foreign nation to visit this nation first, and for a significant amount of time if possible, before making such absurd and ridiculous claims.
13 posted on 05/14/2002 12:45:10 PM PDT by zefrog
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To: zefrog
Incidentally, she's a venomous racist.
14 posted on 05/14/2002 12:46:38 PM PDT by zefrog
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To: zefrog; Ohioan
How is she racist? She is clearly anti-Islamism (and I make this point based on not only this column, but others that I have read as well), but that doesn't necessarily entail racism as a matter of course.

As for her comments on France, I agree with Ohioan that it is far too early to give up on France, as Ms. Schussel seems to have already done. In fact, the very fact that Jean-Marie got 17% more of the corresponding Presidential vote than did Pat Buchanan shows that we could, in fact, learn from France.

15 posted on 05/14/2002 1:16:38 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Phillip Augustus
Basically, she implies that the large numbers of muslims will turn France into a RADICAL MUSLIM country. This sentence:

"One thing is for sure: in the next 50 to 100 years—maybe sooner—France will become a Muslim nation. Demographics dictate it."

...basically proves that she's completely paranoid when it comes to the muslim "threat:. Her extrapolation on demographics is based on linear (even exaggerated) interpolation on the current trend, which is nonsense. 1st generation immigrants don't have much in common with 3rd generation immigrants. And even if the trend remained the same, her "calculations" are wrong.

Second, in her mind, muslim = radical muslim. In France, this only holds for a minority (albeit a quite disturbing, violent and problematic one).

Third, her comments of Arafat's wife and daughter are ridiculous: they're Christian!

Fourth, the arabs don't control the unions, as she pretends. This is sheer bullshit.

Last, her comments on the abortion pill are in complete disconnection with reality. The abortion rate in France and the use of the RU-486 and others are very low as compared to the rest of the western world.

Really, she's nuts.

16 posted on 05/14/2002 1:54:01 PM PDT by zefrog
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To: Tancred
Not only does she make sense, but she's good-looking as well (like many other conservative spokeswomen).

lol That's just what I was thinking. I never realized that she was so attractive (in both senses). But let the muslims gain a large enough proportion of the population, and we will have no way of knowing what she or any other women look like.

17 posted on 05/14/2002 10:39:00 PM PDT by Korth
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To: dorben
LOL ! Pumpkin , Check the account before you post Babe -)
18 posted on 05/16/2002 8:11:11 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Uncle Sausage
I believe that this is a proactive project in progress . Yet knowing Government must grow to consume us all it is not going to be a suprise to me when the revamping will also become a failure . It's not a shot at my President but rather a fact of Government .
19 posted on 05/16/2002 8:17:51 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: zejauw
Bump .. The fact that the very nature of politics is to convert or to get along is what will be the path to continued contamination of this Republic . What happened to just having plain 'ole simple conviction .. ?
20 posted on 05/16/2002 8:23:01 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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