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Bob Graham (Chairman of Senate Intelligence Committee) Says 9-11 Story "Overblown" On Larry King
Larry King Show ^ | May 16, 2002

Posted on 05/17/2002 5:52:46 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

KING: Mike Wallace will be with us for the hour, remains with us. Joining us now in Washington, Senator Bob Graham, Democrat of Florida, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Senator Richard Shelby, Republican of Alabama, vice chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. CBS broke this story, everyone's run it all day. Mike can chime in with questions as well. We'll start with Senator Graham with the now familiar what did they know and when did they know it?


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SEN. BOB GRAHAM (D-FL), SELECT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: Larry, I frankly think this is probably an overblown story. The president gets a briefing every day on the major issues that he's likely to face. I have not seen the specific document from which he was briefed on August the 7th, but we heard a summary of it, and if that summary is correct, it had some important information, but not exceptional information in terms of what I'm certain that the White House already knew, about the threat of Osama bin Laden.

Senator Bob Graham says that this is an "overblown story" but this won't prevent Dan Rather & company from jumping all over it from the political angle.

1 posted on 05/17/2002 5:52:47 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Senate Intelligence = Oxymoron
2 posted on 05/17/2002 6:01:20 AM PDT by jimkress
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To: PJ-Comix
DemocRATS trying to close that can of worms?
3 posted on 05/17/2002 6:02:54 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: PJ-Comix
clinton knew of the threat for at least 7 yrs.........
4 posted on 05/17/2002 6:06:14 AM PDT by linn37
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To: PJ-Comix
Graham again manages to sound "moderate" and "reasoned" despite his liberal voting record.
5 posted on 05/17/2002 6:07:52 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: PJ-Comix
Larry and Mike, lapdogs in arms, need to be made aware of this:

The Cost of Life (Clinton/Gore Sellout of Security for Campaign Contributions) **FR EXCLUSIVE** #3 Thread Two | 9/23/01 | Jon Loose and Connie Hair

Victoria Cummock and CIA Director John Deutch were resolute in their opposition to the “softball” report. Gore was given no choice but to pull back the report. Reinstalled were sensible new procedures that would cost the airlines millions of dollars.

· Conduct airport vulnerability assessments and develop action plans
· Require criminal background checks and FBI fingerprint checks for all screeners, and all airport and airline employees with access to secure areas
· Deploy existing technology
· Signifi cantly expand the use of bomb-sniffing dogs
· Complement technology with automated passenger profiling
· Certify screening companies and improve screener performance
· Aggressively test existing security systems
· Use the Customs Service to enhance security
· Give properly cleared airline and airport security personnel access to the classified information they need to know
· Begin implementation of full bag-passenger match
· Providing more compassionate and effective assistance to families of victims
· Improve passenger manifests
· Significantly increase the number of FBI agents assigned to counter-terrorism investigations, to improve intelligence, and to crisis response
· Provide anti-terrorism assistance in the form of airport security training to countries where there are airports served by airlines flying to the US

The security measures were in the final recommendation report. However, the implementation timetable was nowhere to be found.

In February of 1997, Victoria Cummock called the report “toothless.” She informed Gore that unless specific implementation dates were added in the report she would file a dissent, because the airline industry would not have to do anything until such measures were mandated.

On February 12, 1997, an open meeting was held on the commission’s final report. Gore made a point to inform Ms. Cummock that he would leave room for her dissent to the final report. NBC Dateline caught these comments on videotape. Also on videotape was Mr. Gore presenting the final report to President Clinton minutes later and pronouncing that the report had unanimous consent. But it didn’t.

This was reposted courtesy of backhoe, today.

6 posted on 05/17/2002 6:08:10 AM PDT by ventana
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To: PJ-Comix
Can you say 'backpeddling'? There, I knew you could.
7 posted on 05/17/2002 6:09:41 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: PJ-Comix
Wallace is a real prick. What a hypocrite. National security isn't another 60 minutes story.
8 posted on 05/17/2002 6:14:07 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: PJ-Comix
It's beginning to look like the pressitiutes got a little overzealous with this "story" and didn't consult with the RATS first. Me thinks that the RATS want out of this ASAP, and I think FReepers all know why. Hummmmmmmm! Anyone, anyone....Clinton....anyone?
9 posted on 05/17/2002 6:14:17 AM PDT by timydnuc
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To: PJ-Comix
I have not seen the specific document from which he was briefed on August the 7th

BS -- Congress was briefed on the same material the very day after Bush was.

10 posted on 05/17/2002 6:15:58 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: kattracks
Unlike Gephardt and Daschle, Graham has no further political ambitions. Plus note what he also says here:

. I have not seen the specific document from which he was briefed on August the 7th, but we heard a summary of it, and if that summary is correct, it had some important information, but not exceptional information in terms of what I'm certain that the White House already knew, about the threat of Osama bin Laden.

Which is exactly the point the White House is making. However, this won't prevent the Demmycrats with Presidential ambitions (Dashle, Gephardt, Hillary, etc.) from making it sound almost like Bush knew in advance that airplanes would be flown into the WTC Towers and the Pentagon. BTW, one other point. Even most of the hijackers themselves didn't know their planes would be flown into buildings. Only the hijackers doing the actual piloting knew this. The rest of them thought they were just along on a standard hijacking. This is also what the intelligence agencies thought when they got some evidence that a hijacking might be in the works. NONE of the intelligence agencies (nor did most of the hijackers themselves) had any inkling that the planes would be used as flying bombs.

11 posted on 05/17/2002 6:16:08 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: JohnHuang2
Even Mike Wallace admits this "scandal" is political:

KING: All right. Mike, do you see this -- first, do you agree that this may be overblown or do you think this is the kind of story that if Clinton were in office the conservatives would be railing against him, with Bush in office, the Democrats are railing against him?

WALLACE: Of course it's political....

12 posted on 05/17/2002 6:20:01 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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WALLACE: Of course it's political....

Telling....and that's why it'll backfire. Dems will rue the day they tried to slime the President with this grossly irresponsible charge.

13 posted on 05/17/2002 6:24:23 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: PJ-Comix
I saw Chuck Grassley and Evan Byah (sp?) of Indiana on FOX (I think) and Byah sounded quite reasonable. He said something close to Graham---that this is overblown and that the issue here is to get the intel agencies working together. I think these Dems have started to realize that because THEY controlled the Senate Intelligence Committee, THEY will be held just as accountable if this is viewed as a screw up.
14 posted on 05/17/2002 6:26:00 AM PDT by LS
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I think these Dems have started to realize that because THEY controlled the Senate Intelligence Committee, THEY will be held just as accountable if this is viewed as a screw up.

Hit the nail on the head.

15 posted on 05/17/2002 6:29:38 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: LS
. I think these Dems have started to realize that because THEY controlled the Senate Intelligence Committee, THEY will be held just as accountable if this is viewed as a screw up.

This reminds me of an old Chinese saying that goes something like this: "Don't wish for something because you might get what you ask for."

Well, the Demmycrats wished for the control of the Senate and, thanx to Jeffords, they got what they wished for. Unfortunately, for them, it also gave them control of the Senate Intelligence Committee so they can't claim ignorance of the vague warnings (hijackings but not flying bombs).

16 posted on 05/17/2002 6:31:06 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: JohnHuang2
See my reply #16 about getting what you wish for. BTW, this saying could also apply to the Elian Gonzalez fiasco. Reno/Clinton got what it/he asked for (sending Elian back to Cuba) and, as a result, Gore lost Florida.....and the election.
17 posted on 05/17/2002 6:33:28 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: kattracks
Katt, the mantra now has changed (as of the talk shows last night) to "we only want to fix anything that went wrong in the intelligence agencies." Here is the problem: If the failure was that the FBI and CIA were not "sharing data," why was that? Because in the wake of Watergate we passed a whole bunch of "reforms" aimed at prohibiting the CIA from "domestic spying." If we turn around and allow the FBI to "share" data and information, it is fine with me, but I have a feeling many civil libertarians will scream bloody murder, because it in essence authorizes domestic spying by the CIA.
18 posted on 05/17/2002 6:33:54 AM PDT by LS
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To: PJ-Comix
Re: #16 - excellent point.
20 posted on 05/17/2002 6:35:28 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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