Posted on 05/24/2002 12:01:16 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
Well with that above italicized statement you have become an "enemy" to most of the Libertarian Party supporters on FR.
Next thing you know you will be spouting such propaganda that a person doesn't have the right to open a crack or prostituion house on his/her property.
You heretic to the founding fathers.
As written, the article gives a very cogent analysis of the situation and that eminant domain is being abused, but with my experience with LP'ers on FR, I am not swayed. That is the conumdrum for Lp'ers. Sound reasonable and they sound like 60% of the Republican party, but the majority of the LP'ers would rather burn bridges than build them, IMHO.
Well said.
A clipping from the article:
"Jeff Finkle, chief executive officer of the International Economic Development Council and Bullock's opponent at the Cato forum, argued that in the modern world, eminent domain is a tool needed to ensure economic development."
"I think communities have the right to use eminent domain for economic development," said Finkle, whose group serves development professionals and is dedicated to advocating development issues. "I would like to point out that most communities do not like to use eminent domain but that it is a tool of last resort."
Please note that isn't a libertarian's critique, that is the argument from our opposition.
Do you agree with his opinion on eminant domain, or do you think he is going to far?
There are so many variables in the use of eminent domain, that I can't give you an answer.
I just think that it is up for the local community to decide and that the property owner get a fair market value for his/her property.
When I buy a piece of land, I don't want it to be taken away by anyone without my consent, eminent domain or not. And I don't think this makes me a Libertarian.
You know, if I didn't know better, I might think you're dodging the question because you don't want to defend the indefensible.
I just think that it is up for the local community to decide
Ok, if it were your local community, and you were asked, would you like eminent domain used for economic development, or to increase the tax base?
Or would you prefer your local community reserve eminant domain for things like roads and airports?
What dodging the question? I stated that eminent domain should be decided by local communites with the provision that the property owner get a fair price.
What is so indefensible about that? Oh that is right you are a Libertarian and beleive that the 10th amendment does not exist. Excuse me.
Fine. How about the other one:
If it were your local community, and you were asked, would you like eminent domain used for economic development, or to increase the tax base?
Oh that is right you are a Libertarian and beleive that the 10th amendment does not exist.
Oh, I like the 10th Amendment just fine, and the 9th Amendment as well. Very limited federal powers, everything not enumerated is forbidden. And I fully realize that states would have powers to do all sorts of very un-libertarian things. But we could concentrate in one small state and establish Libertarian government there.
And mark my words, if we did ever try that, the federal politicians you elect would ignore the 10th Amendment and override our state and local governments by force.
I can't ever imagine you supporting the 10th Amendment so that state and local governments could have less laws than the fed. But I can imagine you supporting it, only to the extent that local governments could be more restrictive. Am I mistaken?
In your zeal to bash libertarians come hell or high water, you've once again resorted to smears, innuendo, and comments out of context. In your desperation to provoke comment and gain attention, you have to change the current thread to your old thread that failed to get the resonses you had hoped. You are not yet a master at baiting, but you are trying very very hard.
If you had these same tactices applied to you as often as you applied them to others, you'd wear out the abuse button.
If it were your local community, and you were asked, would you like eminent domain used for economic development, or to increase the tax base?
Well gee, I would ask my neighbors and other members of the community and discuss the situation. I guess that is a foreign concept to Libertarians like yourself. Oh the horror of discussing of what may benefit the local community and talking to other people who may not agree with you.
But we could concentrate in one small state and establish Libertarian government there.
Then go right ahead, no one is stopping you, but just my opinion, the utopian community you envision where there are no stop signs, stop lights, but where there are crack and whore houses on every block, will not attract a good crowd.
If you had these same tactices applied to you as often as you applied them to others, you'd wear out the abuse button.
Yawn Eagle. Not one proclaimed Libertarian on FR has criticized Mr. Baker's actions as reported in reply #13.
As I said before, the silence is deafening.
I am a self proclaimed constitutional libertarian. I'm on FR, & I hereby criticize Mr. Baker's actions if they are as reported in reply #13.
As you've said before, dane, the silence is deafening, mainly because you are a complete howling lying fanatic about libertarianism. Get a clue.
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As you've said before, dane, the silence is deafening, mainly because you are a complete howling lying fanatic about libertarianism. Get a clue
LOL! tpaine. You are the epitomie of the addage "You can't teach an old dog new tricks".
I believe in the adage "Do what you want as long as it does not infringe on my rights" My rights as a property owner are infringed by this mans junkyard in his yard. It brings the value of MY property down. If he wants to move out to the country, get the proper permits and open a junkyard, hey hurray for his side, but to bring down my property value in order to do what he wants, and it is a matter of private property rights is a crock. If it effects me directly, he has NO right to do it.
How about when your neighbors house is worth 50% more than your house but your house is bringing the value of his house. Get rid of your house and move out to the country or buy the most expensive house on another block. OR, are you exempt?
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