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Some in GOP push for test of loyalty - Pinning down the RINO'S
The Dallas Morning News ^ | June 4, 2002 | By WAYNE SLATER / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 06/04/2002 6:54:36 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Some in GOP push for test of loyalty

Critics say plan will fracture strength of Republicans in state

06/04/2002

By WAYNE SLATER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN - Supporters of a political purity test plan to bear a distinctive logo at this week's state GOP convention aimed at ridding the party of what they call RINOs - Republicans in Name Only.

The logo featuring a slash through the word RINO will appear on signs, buttons and brochures to illustrate a demand that candidates pledge allegiance to the party platform as a requirement to be on the ballot.

"I am sick and tired of Texas Republicans going to Austin and Washington and not representing Texas Republican values as enunciated in the platform," said David Carter, a delegate from Nederland.

Robert X. Johnson of San Antonio, who is leading the effort, says the party should set a rigorous standard for candidates to keep moderates off the ticket.

Opponents warn that such a litmus test would hurt the party, noting that George W. Bush and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison didn't agree with everything in past state platforms.

Mr. Bush dismissed questions about the state party platform during his 1998 re-election race, saying he hadn't read it.

Delegates to the state GOP convention convening Friday in Dallas will consider a proposal to require all GOP candidates to accept the platform's "core principles" and put into writing whether they agree with each plank.

In the platform adopted two years ago, the party advocated returning to the gold standard, getting out of the United Nations, denying the custody of children to homosexuals and outlawing abortion without exceptions such as to save the life of the woman.

State Republican Party Chairman Susan Weddington called the effort "misguided" and said past attempts to impose an ideological litmus test on candidates have failed.

"I expect the same results with this effort," Mrs. Weddington said. "At the end of the day, the vast majority of Republicans believe strongly in candidates campaigning in an open process."

The proposal has sparked a vigorous debate among delegates, including a furious e-mail exchange among the party faithful over whether such a rule would be advisable or even legal.

"I'm 110 percent in favor of ridding the GOP of every single RINO," Mark Wallace of Austin wrote in an e-mail forum on the issue. "They have infiltrated our party over the years like Trojan horses."

David Astwood of San Antonio wrote that the requirement "will definitely discourage closet Democrats and liberals from leaving their losing party and empty causes and joining our party."

Other delegates who oppose the rule say the party should be more inclusive if it wants to grow.

"I know of no better way to make Republican candidates look less legitimate than by making them publicly display a laundry list of any disagreements within the party," said Kurt Hyde, a delegate from Denton County.

"For heaven sake," wrote Sue Karcher of Rockport, "why aren't you spending your time trying to make the Republican Party of Texas more inclusive and welcoming instead of trying to keep people out?"

Cal Jillson, a political science professor at Southern Methodist University, said such intramural squabbling among the party faithful usually has little impact on regular voters.

"This is a debate about who's most faithful," Mr. Jillson said.

"Parties are for the purists, the people who care a lot and work hard," he said. "These are the sweat on the brow, 'I care to the depth of my soul about these issues' people. So they develop platforms that really can't stand public scrutiny and exposure."

Mrs. Weddington sought to play down the fight, saying the party was going into the convention united and optimistic that it would hold all 28 statewide offices, control the Legislature and win down-ballot contests.

"As often happens," she said, "it's the bad kids who get the most attention, and all the good kids get forgotten."

E-mail wslater@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/texassouthwest/stories/060402dntexrino.b5937.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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To: billbears
"I for one WILL NOT do it. I'm not voting for Giddy Dolt under any circumstance"

Many of us feel the same way.

21 posted on 06/04/2002 8:01:55 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: flyer; antivenom; bobbyd; petroniDE
Ping!
23 posted on 06/04/2002 8:06:17 AM PDT by diotima
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To: MeeknMing
I've read repeatedly that in the last 7-8 years whenever a conservative runs against a liberal in a republican primary that the RNC provides financial support to the liberal and discourages other people from supporting the conservative. So, obviously an ideological litimus test already exists. It is simply not described in that manner.
24 posted on 06/04/2002 8:12:56 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: hauerf
Your right on target on Dubya being a RINO. Rockefeller Republicanism is back in the saddle again!
25 posted on 06/04/2002 8:14:06 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon,Diotima
This is more of the Rule 43 stuff I have been reading...
26 posted on 06/04/2002 8:27:25 AM PDT by antivenom
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Problem is we can't agree on very many core issues and the party in Texas looks very little like the people who attend conventions. If you hold everyone to the platform that's fine, you will get the 20% of the vote that agrees with everything you write.

If a return to the gold standard is a "core" idea which Republican's are required to advocate, 20% may be generous. Withdrawl from the UN probably drops under 20% as well.

To me, the most important "core" value would involve a candidate elucidating his values and ideas to voters, then sticking to them. R's don't need to be held to a shopping list of "values" as do the dems.

27 posted on 06/04/2002 8:30:43 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Spiff
We've got a group within the Republican Party here in
Arizona that wants to start an organization called Root Out
All RINOs - ROAR - and they mean it.

Might I venture a guess that the obvious #1 on the list is
amongst our current Senate membership?

28 posted on 06/04/2002 8:33:19 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MissAmericanPie
It's the voters fault as well. Where I live it's predominately democrat land. The people love our rino pols because they bring home the bacon to the state. It's just disgusting how the people expect federal money to come home to them. If the pols do a good enough job of this~ they get reelected.
29 posted on 06/04/2002 8:34:01 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: SJackson
Dear Sir or Madam,

If you insist on being rational it will only serve to confuse me! ;-)

30 posted on 06/04/2002 8:34:55 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: Psalm 73;Don Myers;billbears;sixtycyclehum
I found part of the thread. Since lone star annie hasn't returned to respond, I thought I would give a partial defence.

While a many may paint her as a liberal from DU, consider what is actually being suggested. Quite a few people here always complain that the DEMs march in lock step, or are having their arms twisted by Daschle, etc. What I see happening here is formalizing the same thing. Mean-spirited or not, intolerant or not, at the very least, it comes off as sounding hypocritical.

As for the church comment: huh?
31 posted on 06/04/2002 8:35:09 AM PDT by gear
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To: MeeknMing
Might I venture a guess that the obvious #1 on the list is amongst our current Senate membership?

You'd be right if you guessed McCain. But, since this is not an election year for McCain, they are going to focus on RINO Rep. Jim Kolbe. See this thread for more info.

32 posted on 06/04/2002 8:37:26 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Red Jones
Interesting comment you make. Do you have available any of those readings? I think people would be interested in them.
33 posted on 06/04/2002 8:38:48 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Red Jones
I've read repeatedly that in the last 7-8 years whenever a conservative
runs against a liberal in a republican primary that the RNC provides
financial support to the liberal and discourages other people from
supporting the conservative. So, obviously an ideological litimus test
already exists. It is simply not described in that manner.


Huh? What the heck is that all about? Guess it got under my radar.......
34 posted on 06/04/2002 8:42:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Spiff
Yes, McLame. And thanks for the link!
35 posted on 06/04/2002 8:43:43 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
This will be fine with that segment of the party who loves to lose while not giving an inch on anything.....

Otherwise known as The Unappeaseables, this group wants to start kicking people out of the party because they don't tow the line 100%.

Reminds me of some members of my Catholic Church. They want the Pope to start excommunicating massive numbers of people because they're sinners.

Of course, they would be the only ones left.

36 posted on 06/04/2002 8:45:08 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: MeeknMing
This is how I see it.

I've held my nose and pulled the lever many times. I didnt hold my nose with Bush, I really thought he'd make a great president but he's turned out to do more to devolve conservatism than any RAT could have.

After holding your nose enough times you reach the point of diminishing returns. It's gotten to the point where what used to be my "party" is becoming part of the problem instead of part of the solution. I'd swear over the last year or so the bastards are working for the other side.

It's like in war. If your vehicles or supplies are going to fall into the hands you destroy them. If the GOP is here to give us a larger, more intrusive government that ignores the constitution and brings us more quasi (or real) socialism BURN IT DOWN

But that's just me.

37 posted on 06/04/2002 8:45:37 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: hauerf
The damage possible by RINOs is evident in the jeffords defection
38 posted on 06/04/2002 8:47:47 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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I guess these purity litmus tests would depend on how they are used. For example say that a candidate agrees with 85 of 100 points in a party platform. A wise man would weigh that in how he votes. A fool would disqualify him for not agreeing with 100 of the 100. An idiot would consider only the 15 in disagreement, ignoring the rest.

Lots of fools and idiots babbling these days.

39 posted on 06/04/2002 8:49:25 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Austin Willard Wright
I am NOT seeing any difference between Jumpin' Jim Jeffords and Dubya...

Last year in Dallas, I heard Keyes speak...and he pissed off so many FReepers...but you know...he was right...he said that when GW sold out to the embryo research...he compromised his principles...and you know...Keyes was right...GW has sold us out...right on down the line...in the name of WHAT?

What is he doing? He has "slapped" every Texan in the face, he has spit on every conservative, he has stolen the votes of Republicans...

WHO in their RIGHT mind is gonna DEFEND this, justify this and or ACCEPT this???

Seems to me the trip to Dallas and the Republican Convention is going to be a waste of MY time, money, patience, and principles!

Hell I may go out and start supporting the DINOS...at least I THINK they support me! HA!

40 posted on 06/04/2002 8:49:29 AM PDT by antivenom
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