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Catholic Caucus - Proclaim the Truth!
April 23, 2002 | ELS

Posted on 04/23/2002 8:38:22 AM PDT by ELS

Catholic Caucus - Proclaim the Truth!

Msgr. Clark
Dearest friends,

Two days ago Monsignor Eugene Clark stood in the preeminent pulpit of the Catholic Church in the United States of America at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City and proclaimed the truth regarding the abuses committed by some priests. He went straight to the heart of the matter, which is homosexuality. There are many who don't want to hear the truth as well as those who don't want to publicize the truth.

Already we have seen the Archdiocese of New York distance itself from Monsignor Clark (Archdiocese Responds to Sermon), the homosexual activists attempt to keep the truth from getting out (CONTROVERSY IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH: Homosexuals start to attack Crisis), and nominal Catholics quoted in the mainstream media as not agreeing with the Monsignor.

Last evening I attended a class given by a long-time friend and colleague of Monsignor Clark. He had spoken with the Monsignor on Friday and knew he would be celebrating the Cardinal's Mass at St. Patrick's on Sunday, but Msgr. Clark had not told him about the content of his homily. Well, on his way to work yesterday, this priest caught the headline of the NY Daily News - Priest Blasts Gays - and was elated. One of my classmates had inquired if Monsignor Clark has an e-mail address and his friend replied, "He still uses a quill." The only fax machine is the general fax machine for St. Patrick's Cathedral. However, his friend said that the Monsignor loves letters and encouraged all of us to write letters of support to Monsignor Clark, as well as cc'ing the Cardinal so that he is aware of all the support for the Monsignor and his courageous stand.

I know FReepers are accustomed to the almost instantaneous response time of the Internet, but please take the few extra minutes necessary to print out a letter of support and mail it to Monsignor Clark (and send a copy to Cardinal Egan). Their addresses are:

Monsignor Eugene Clark
460 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022-6863

Cardinal Edward Egan
452 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022-6864

A few threads regarding the Monsignor's homily (If I have missed any, please post a link on this thread - thanks.):
Monsignor Blames Gay Men for Scandal
St. Pat Msgr. Hits Gays On Scandal/Blames woes on 'disorder,' U.S. immorality
Catholic clergyman blames scandal on homosexuality; calls U.S. 'immoral' nation


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; eugeneclark; homosexuality; monsignor; priests
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1 posted on 04/23/2002 8:38:22 AM PDT by ELS
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To: oremus;history_matters;Antoninus;Mike Fieschko;victim soul;Orual;Coleus;Exit 109;neocon;Romulus...
Send Monsignor Clark a letter of support and encouragement!
2 posted on 04/23/2002 8:40:01 AM PDT by ELS
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To: OxfordMovement;Wordsmith;LarryLied;FormerLib
If you are so inclined, your support is welcome, too!
3 posted on 04/23/2002 8:41:09 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp;history_matters;patent;johniegrad
My Catholic ping list is at home. If any of you see this thread as worth pinging, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
4 posted on 04/23/2002 8:42:51 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS
There are many who don't want to hear the truth as well as those who don't want to publicize the truth.

Well said. I hope Monsignor Clark does not wield to pressure and back down from the statements he made in his homily.

5 posted on 04/23/2002 8:45:49 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
I hope Monsignor Clark does not wield to pressure and back down from the statements he made in his homily.

Well, I was just reading a recently posted thread (GAY-BASH HOMILY DIDN'T HAVE EGAN BLESSING) and he is still holding his ground. It is all the more reason we need to send him our support.

6 posted on 04/23/2002 8:51:04 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ventana
Sorry I missed you in my earlier ping.
7 posted on 04/23/2002 8:51:35 AM PDT by ELS
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To: gumbo;SMEDLEYBUTLER;eastsider;wideawake;BlackElk;Proud2bAmerican;grumpster-dumpster;Dumb_Ox...
PING!
8 posted on 04/23/2002 9:18:56 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS
Thank you for the flag and for the links to the articles. Can you direct me to a transcript of Msgr. Clark's homily so that I can read what he said in context? Thanks again.
9 posted on 04/23/2002 9:28:21 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: ELS
"The Church, ministers and all, needs to stand and be counted and heard and heard and heard. Give no heed to the complaints of offense by the wicked. Be like Stephen, who was Christ like, and spoke the truth until the wicked stoned him to death. He refused to be censured by the objections and protests of the wicked. Speak against baby shredding, speak the Bible truth against morally reprobate homosexuals and speak against child/adult sex, until they give it up or stone you to death."-- Freeper Lester Moore
10 posted on 04/23/2002 9:35:24 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: eastsider;frogandtoad
Unfortunately, I don't know of a transcript of the homily, online or offline. frogandtoad attended the Sunday Mass (he's a local parishioner of St. Pat's) and I have asked him to see if he can get hold of a transcript. I agree that it would be helpful to read what he actually said and not the liberal media's spin of what he said.
11 posted on 04/23/2002 9:38:39 AM PDT by ELS
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To: FormerLib
That's a great quote, excellent advice!
12 posted on 04/23/2002 9:46:50 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ThomasMore;dighton;SoothingDave;pegleg;pelayo
PING!
13 posted on 04/23/2002 9:48:47 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS
Thanks so much for this!

I have one question: is there any special way to address a monsignor (like "Your Excellency" for a bishop)? Thanks !!!

14 posted on 04/23/2002 9:52:44 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: ELS; patent; notwithstanding; JMJ333; Aunt Polgara; AgThorn; IM2Phat4U; toenail...
Ping!
15 posted on 04/23/2002 9:56:36 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: ELS
From the Pope's Address to the U.S. Cardinals,
"People need to know that there is no place in the priesthood and religious life for those who would harm the young. They must know that Bishops and priests are totally committed to the fullness of Catholic truth on matters of sexual morality, a truth as essential to the renewal of the priesthood and the episcopate as it is to the renewal of marriage and family life."
Thank you for the ping.
Good Monsignor deserves a letter of support, especially now when the sodomite lobbies are likely to attack him.
16 posted on 04/23/2002 9:59:45 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: BlessedBeGod;Romulus
I have one question: is there any special way to address a monsignor (like "Your Excellency" for a bishop)?

That's a good question. I don't know the answer, but from this thread Romulus posted the following information:

According to my 1969 edition of the Catholic Almanac (Askel wondered once why I'd kept it all these years), forms of address are as follows:

Cardinals: His Eminence (Christian Name), Cardinal (Surname).; (if he is an archbishop or bishop, include the Title of his see.); Your Eminence; Asking the blessing of Your Eminence, I am, Yours respectfully, (Name).

Archbishops and Bishops: The Most Rev. (Name); Arch(bishop) of (Title of his see.); Your Exellency; Asking the Your Exellency's blessing, I am, Yours respectfully, (Name).

Romulus, does your almanac say anything about forms of address for Monsignors?

17 posted on 04/23/2002 10:04:06 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS; OxfordMovement; father_elijah; Slyfox; rose; Aunt Polgara; Codie; ELS; katnip;viadexter...
God bless you ELS, and God bless Msgr. Clark!

BUMP

18 posted on 04/23/2002 10:04:44 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: ELS
Definitely ping material. Thanks ELS.
19 posted on 04/23/2002 10:07:12 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Catholic_list
Indexing
20 posted on 04/23/2002 10:16:38 AM PDT by history_matters
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