Outsource the work of our economic advisers

seattle times ^ | February 19, 2004 | Froma Harrop

[edeal]

I would not call the Soviet Union our allies in WWII. They were combatants with a common enemy, nothing more.

As for changing our tradtional alliances, I agree. But everyone is afraid of taking on China, and because of that North Korea.

[Paul C. Jesup]

THere's a difference?

Yes, the politicans we paying the whores to be whored, while lobbiests were paying the politicans to be whored.

[SeeRushToldU_So]

.....and this year no vote for Bush.

Osama will be happy with you. This election is bigger than your job.

[edeal]

That has not been my experience. Liberals distrust, even demonize, business i. e. those "evil, soulless" corporations. I have always tended to vote Republican because I distrust big business less than I distrust big government. That wasn't because I necessarily thought that business leaders had more integrity than government leaders, just that I thought the system of checks and balances worked better in business than in government. With Enron, MCI, Arthur Anderson, etc. over the last couple of years, I have had to rethink that position.

I doubt liberals would call a corporation "souless" as that would almost be like admitting there is a god. However, that may be sentiment I share. Corporations by designm shield individual responsibility and are by definition collectivist.

I believe in a very free and open treatment of businesses, when the business have people behind it that actually have personal responsibility. When no single owner owns more than a percent of a company, there is something wrong. It is not longer the free market system envisioned by the great thinkers of centuries past, it is basically the same as a government entity.

Corporations are socialistic. The other forms of business are not. The socialists that love big corporations and claim they are capitalists make me laugh.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Outsource David Rockefeller and the Council of the Americas. They are BAD hombres and shame America for their avarice and lack of patriotic values.

Try decent capitalist values. Any intelligent capitalist would see that outsourcing was insane for two reasons.

First, outsourcing to forgien nations would be dangerious in the long term because they could always seize your assets over there.

Second, outsourcing destablizes your home country, making your country's government more corrupt and more prown to siezing your assets here and arresting you for any number of political reasons as a scapegoat.

Whatever short term gains outsourcing produces, it does NOT out weighted by the long term dangers.

[petercooper]

Why should he be fired? For telling the truth?

Simple minded people can't understand this concept unless it's talked about in one syllable words, I understand, but the free market works.

[edeal]

There is more to the world than the War on Terror, and this administration has handeled it "adequately" at best.

Any monkey in a suit could have duplicated the effort. The whole UN embarrassment. I don't mean them not supporting us, it was the fact that he basically subverted our soveignty by asking for their permission in the first place.

He even evokes "Iraq disobeyed the UN" as a reason for war. What a load of crap, for that I actually have respect for Iraq. Iraq was our defeated foe and violated the terms of their surender (which another Bush botched). We have to ask permission for this?

But apparently you are a big supporter of the UN who wants it involved in our foreign affairs. And support a President who brings it in. I realize there is an urge to have blind hatred for the Dems, but whatever empty Dem suit was President after 9/11 would have lead the US to was against Afganastan. As for Iraq? Who knows, remember many of them are opposing the war in Iraq for the same reason you guys supported it. Because it is anti whatever the other side is.

If I was in charge, I would have greatly expanded the war on terror. Also, I would have forced the nations supporting terror to pay for it. With all the oil that Iraq has, why are we paying to rebuild it and occupy it?

This is another case of weak Republican RINO's caving to the democrats and the whole "Blood for oil" crap.

Don't try to challenge me on the war, I am one of the most pro war on terror people here. I just think we have bafoons running it.

[oceanview]

he is both wrong politically, and economically.

Ask yourself this: if these industries being offshored are so "buggywhip", why are India and China so anxious to take them away?

[SeeRushToldU_So]

Good luck, you could always run for office and replace the buffoons running the war.I hear govt service is a steady job, and it is hard to get replaced there.

[edeal]

And another thing. I have only voted Republican for President in my life, and have never missed an election. The fact that I have even considered staying home for this should send shock waves through the Republican party. I was an extremely active Republican, and even went to the Leadership Institute and other schools to develop political skills to help the cause. The only President in modern times I view favorably is Ronald Reagan, and will probably mourn a week openly (and for the rest of my life privately) when he dies. (If I was a newpaper editor, I would use the headline "its mourning in America").

Losing a voter like me should be a signal something is wrong. But of course its always the US versus them mentality that wins in the end. The fact is the Bush family needs to be expunged along with the Doles and any other its my turn in line Republican candidates. How has the party of Reagan fallen this far, and how come the current members feast on this tripe as if it were prime rib?

[Lazamataz]

Would you kindly stop spamming the damned thread???

Jerk.

[edeal]

So you think these people are doing more than an "adequate" job. What part of this is actually excellent? Was it the "shock and awe" phase? Was it the misdirecting the First Division to Turkey in the open portion of the war?

As far as Bush, what part of him do you love. Does all of your support for him amount to he is not worse than the other guy? Mussolini was better than Hitler, would he have your vote? Breshnev was better than Stalin, so I guess you would vote for him too? What are the things that light your fire about Bush? Was it the Russert interview? Was it the over projection of job data only to be retraced by 2/3?

Maybe it is the sacrifices of freedom for the sake of sucurity which are the wonderful part of Bush's record?

Well, what do you base your love of Bush on? Oh yeah he has a little R next to his name. (Has politics come down to the same logic employed when supporting a football team?)

[Lazamataz]

Wonderfully written.

The Free Traitors aren't convincing anyone. After knowledge jobs, what is there?

[Lazamataz]

MAN! You are hitting them out of the park today! (applause, applause)

[petercooper]

If their economies improve, it benefits us in the long run.

People in this country doing menial labor should educate themselves and retrain in high demand occupations. Manufacturing is not a field I'd be looking at.

[Lazamataz]

It is that bad. I have a rather large network of people which include technical recruiters and even exectutives. The statements from all of them are pretty bleak. From the recruiters I get statements that they are on the verge of leaving the industry because of the finacial hit they have taken. One of my friends who is a technical manager at a major supermarket chain has told me his company has stopped hiring Americans for their point of sale technical support staff. They are moving it all to India (that field is my specialty). Another friend of mine is an exectutive for a mid sized fast food restaurant chain. He told me they are already overstocked with IT people and are in the process of cutting the numbers in half. A family member of mine is the assistant director of IT for a phone company, and they are moving all IT operations to San Juan, PR.

These are all just jobs that Americans won't do. Besides, computer programming is a buggy-whip industry. America is much better off having no computer programmers. They'll all just have to stop whining and get better jobs, like CEO or Owner of a sports team. < /FREE TRAITOR>

[Lazamataz]

People in this country doing menial labor should educate themselves and retrain in high demand occupations.

Pray, that occupation would be......?

[oceanview]

we aren't talking about manufacturing anymore. the case you are making holds up when a xmas tree light factory or screw factory moves offshore. But when engineers with PhDs and Master's degrees are getting blown away, telling them to retrain to work at Lowes isn't going to cut it.

[edeal]

Anyone know anyone who is hiring entry level CEO's?

[oceanview]

Martha Stewart Omnimedia may be looking for someone soon. They need a fresh face.