Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
What you saw was a cleverly edited tape.
So if the Schindlers had been more media savvy in picking their spokesmen, then you opinion might have been different???
no and you know that is not what i mean. i have said the presumption should always be for life. obviously if one makes one's wishes clear, there would be no need of a presumption.
You know this to be a fact?
There are actually several criteria. No way President Bush would sign a bill that does what CNN and MSM say it does.
I will try to find the bill....
Right. I've read about 20 articles on this very thing for the past week. All concur.
Me eyes are screaming, "Enough already!"
I meant I just cannot believe the family would do that.
And I don't know what I think anymore, except that I don't want this going on if I should end up like her; my husband gets to decide.
More propaganda. Look at the ADA definition of disabled. You aren't keeping up your end of the manifesto.
I used to live in Boulder City......loved it
I was told that he didn't sign the original bill, right?
You are wrong. How can you even make a comparison between the two conditions? Being mentally challenged is 100% better than being brain dead.
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I don't want it to be true and I don't wish her dead, but to my mind she is dead. You have to know that a person who is so severely damaged is never going to get better. She didn't respond to intensive therapy after four years.
I worked at a board and care for folks like her. It was tragic the lengths and expense that the families went to to keep these poor bodies alive.
My opinion about what?
The entire case.
A wife w/children.
A mistress w/a child.
Same thing they accuse Michael Schivao of having.
Schindlers speak out of both sides of mouth.
Nice straw man, sink.
I believe you can be for life....AND for supporting the current laws.
Example: I am against abortion. But, because that is the law of the land, I must support that law. That doesn't mean I agree with the law. But were I to advocate anarchy (perhaps the violent overthrow of abortion clinics), I would be wrong.
I can HATE the law...but not castigate people who are for supporting current laws.
One can be FOR life.....and also for the law, imo. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.
you discredit yourself by your responses to me. YOU are responsible for yourself, i don't know you or what you believe. i meant YOU as in ONE, ONE is either for life or ONE is not. i am not speaking to you personally, other than to say that i cannot make you understand something that is obvious to so many yet you seem unable to grasp. you are attempting to cast this as me attacking you and i am not. i see lots of bandwith expended on judging other freepers for their reactions to this tragedy, all while moaning about names and aspersions cast on them. EACH should look to their own behavior and examine it with a critical eye.
I'm not as willing as you are to believe that the misrepresentation is the result of raw nerves or muddy thoughts. Based upon the pattern that has developed here at SchiavoRepublic, I'm pretty confident that they are intentionally lying about the Court's action.
Go ahead and postulate your acceptable minimum level of getting better. What level of function would be acceptable to you for someone to be permitted to live in this situation, please?
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