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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: beyond the sea; cyncooper
If cyn will not, I will: Pat Buchanan is a fool. I agree with him on a few issues, but the 'stopped clock' analogy applies. On most issues, I find Pitchfork Pat to be an embarrassment to conservatives.
2,481 posted on 03/31/2005 6:28:18 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: RebelBanker

Wow works:)


2,482 posted on 03/31/2005 6:30:05 AM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: AmericaUnited
Jesus tells us specifically to "judge not" our fellow man, so that we "be not judged".  That "judgement" is the penalty if we judge.  That is, the hardness of our heart to judge others people is reflected in our own judgement by a righteous and perfect God.   

Jesus said that when we judge others, we have a "beam" or log in our own eye.  This "beam" is our own pride in placing ourselves above our fellow man and becoming his judge.  Only God can judge man, not other men".

sw

2,483 posted on 03/31/2005 6:30:39 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: RebelBanker; SE Mom

What bothers me the most is Salvation put that up...


2,484 posted on 03/31/2005 6:34:20 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: RebelBanker

"Somehow "barking moonbats" just does not come within an order of magnitude. Wow."

FR is infested.


2,485 posted on 03/31/2005 6:34:28 AM PST by bonfire
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To: EllaMinnow; Howlin; Peach; KDD; All
Well, I'm back. Had a busy couple of days there...Finally, after 4 months of healing and painful physical therapy, I was at last cleared safe-to-fly in a Navy airplane as a crewman, and did yesterday. It was joyous...clear skies, brilliant sun, and a P-3 that actually WORKED. There's little to compare to cranking and banking about at 200 feet over the waves on a day such as that. It was six hours of rejuvenation, let me tell you. And we capped it off with a few turns about the summit of Mt. Washington at sunset. A truly marvelous day. I'm STILL jazzed about it.

Some observations...

We've had the usual taunts about so-called "True conservatives" on the thread (no, I haven't slogged through ALL the posts I missed). I wonder, do "true conservatives" now support Jesse Jackson? They must; donations to his "Rainbow-Push" coalition have been solicited here. Sorry, in my opinion, "true conservatives" know that he's a hustler and a conman, and his involvement in ANYTHING is bad news. "True Conservatives" do not support just ONE issue to the exclusion of all others. I formerly had great sympathy for the Schindlers and their plight. No more, especially after the offering for sale of videos/pictures of their dying daughter.

Second, there appear to be those on this threwad whose only purpose here is to denigrate, attack, and troll for flames. The animosity and flame-baiting even extends to their taglines. They are best ignored.

Third, the calls for Jeb Bush's head have now reached a fever pitch. Does no one truly see that there was no way in hell that a governor would order a gunfight between LEO organizations, in a public place? Such thinking is delusional, and betrays a lack of understanding of reality.

Fourth, I would like to extend to parties on BOTH sides, those who have debated civilly, my thanks for staying above the dirt. Obviously, some arguments have become heated; I hope that all involved recognize this when it is happening, and step back to regain some calm.

2,486 posted on 03/31/2005 6:34:38 AM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: All

Here's a '7'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374521/posts?page=7#7


2,487 posted on 03/31/2005 6:39:37 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Long Cut

Congrats on your flight status and a Big Grin imagining the fun you had!!!


2,488 posted on 03/31/2005 6:40:33 AM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: SE Mom
Yeah, it was great! The air was nice and smooth, too...even though the swells on the ocean were about 15 feet and whitecapped.

I tore up my knee back in December on a TORPEX flight that got into a thunderstorm in Florida. I got flung around the cabin in the turbulence and smashed it into the deck. I've been four months getting it healed again.

The mountains up here in New England are still snow-capped, and Mt. Washington was a sight to behold in the setting sun.

2,489 posted on 03/31/2005 6:48:53 AM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: Long Cut

Good Morning, LC.

Is it safe to come in here?

:-)

Good heavens!

What happened that you needed 4 months of PT?

I hope you are okay now.

Thank you! for your service to our country!


2,490 posted on 03/31/2005 6:49:52 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Long Cut

YAY you! I think my husband was on a P-3 crew...his Navy days were pre-me.


2,491 posted on 03/31/2005 6:50:06 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: Long Cut

D'oh!

Okay!

I see what happened now.

Glad you are on the mend.


2,492 posted on 03/31/2005 6:50:40 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: All

Terri has passed away.


2,493 posted on 03/31/2005 6:53:42 AM PST by MKM1960 (Now I know how Tom Daschle felt: "I'm saddened, deeply saddened")
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To: All

Terri has passed away. God rest her soul.


2,494 posted on 03/31/2005 6:54:09 AM PST by MKM1960 (Now I know how Tom Daschle felt: "I'm saddened, deeply saddened")
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To: MKM1960

God speed Terri- go in peace. Amen.


2,495 posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:12 AM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: MKM1960

Bumping that!

Poor parents.


2,496 posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:24 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: MKM1960

She's finally at peace now. I hope the WPPFF can have a few minutes of compassion for those who are grieving.


2,497 posted on 03/31/2005 6:56:26 AM PST by shezza
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To: MKM1960

May God have mercy on us all. Godspeed Terri!


2,498 posted on 03/31/2005 6:56:40 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: shezza
Hello shezza, Terri is in the loving arms of Our Lord now. Sincere Condolences to her family...

sw

2,499 posted on 03/31/2005 7:00:50 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: shezza

I hope now there will be no need for the WPPFF and FReepers can go back to treating each other with civility.


2,500 posted on 03/31/2005 7:00:55 AM PST by RushCrush (Some people think I should provide equal time. Wrong. I AM equal time.)
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