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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Poohbah
I'm pulling chocks tomorrow. Writing the opus thread now.

I vote nay to that. FR is going through a crazy period, but I think it will settle back to normal in the near future.

2,721 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:15 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: mhking
And you know what? When the MSM and the DUmmies point at us as examples of unhinged right-wing extremist fringe folks, they'll point to posts like those to bolster their arguement. And furthermore, we won't have a damn thing we can say about it. Because they'll be right.

Worth repeating.

2,722 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:16 AM PST by retrokitten (I heart Tony Snow)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Thank you. I was going to leave for a few years.

or not

2,723 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:49 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: Poohbah

Poohbah wrote:



I'm pulling chocks tomorrow. Writing the opus thread now.




I'm considering doing the same thing.

FR is about my only social outlet anymore, and some of the atrocious behavior of late has really opened my eyes.

It's not a lot of fun to watch people I consider "Friends" rip one another's eyes out.


2,724 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:53 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: tiamat; annyokie
Does the Freeperthon start tomorrow?

Oh wow. Wonder if someone will suggest we donate to the Rainbow Push?

Oops, they already have...never mind.

sw

2,725 posted on 03/31/2005 9:21:58 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: tiamat

my thoughts exactly


2,726 posted on 03/31/2005 9:21:58 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: Howlin
I think the forum is going to have its temper tantrum, no matter what. It'll probably last until a day or two after Terri's funeral.

The best thing that could happen is some major news event that would change the subject. I'm tired of TerriRepublic.com.

2,727 posted on 03/31/2005 9:22:00 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Poohbah

Well, if you go, at least leave a forwarding address so we can hook up elsewhere if it is decided that the rest of us are unwanted here, too.


2,728 posted on 03/31/2005 9:22:10 AM PST by malakhi
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To: Randjuke
The more I think about this whole situation I find that there are no heroes in it. Everybody involved is distasteful to some extent. While I agree with MS having the right to make decisions for his wife, he seems a pretty slimy character. While I admire the Schindlers for their devotion, I don't get the feeling all this was done purely for the good of their daughter. For the rest - Jesse Jackson, Randall Terry, Hammesfahr, Greer, the circus outside the hospice, judges, politicians, Tom Delay, et al, they all need to shut up and go home. The only innocent in all this was Terri, who no matter what her wishes were has been poorly served.

Randjuke, thanks for posting that. It sums up my (mixed) feelings on this sad case very well.

2,729 posted on 03/31/2005 9:22:12 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: tiamat

The word "friend" is all relative.


2,730 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:03 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: malakhi

email is available on my profile page ;0)


2,731 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:10 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: PeterFinn

You have hundreds of other threads you can post on. There is no need for you to post here.


2,732 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:23 AM PST by malakhi
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To: restornu
This whole thread of yours is Promotional Spam for Euthanasia!

No it's not. I think you've misunderstood most of us here. I am not pro-euthanisia, I am just against the hysterics, hyperbole, distortions and general ugliness that are running rampant in most other threads.

2,733 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:25 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Randjuke

That about sums it up.


2,734 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:50 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort; Asphalt

daylate-dollarshort wrote:

Huh??

Asphalt:


Age:14
Name:Asphalt
Hight:5'81/2"
Date of birth: 10/10/90
Weight:132 lbs


Take a hike son. After you get through puberty and have a little experience in the workings of the world, come back and maybe the adults will speak with you.





I'm an adult, and *I* speak to Asphalt and cosider him a FRiend.

Way to turn off a buddding Conservative.


2,735 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:50 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Asphalt

Well, if you will look at your Ping list, you'll see what I REALLY think of you!

LOL!


2,736 posted on 03/31/2005 9:24:52 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: SE Mom
It was way overdue for someone to put tha likes of them in their place.

I applaud Crier for standing her ground w/those weasels.

2,737 posted on 03/31/2005 9:24:58 AM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: .38sw; restornu
No it's not. I think you've misunderstood most of us here. I am not pro-euthanisia, I am just against the hysterics, hyperbole, distortions and general ugliness that are running rampant in most other threads.

Oh stop it, .38sw. Everyone knows that words such as "hysterics", "hyperbole", "distortions", and "general ugliness" are all Death Cult Nazi Satanist Code words...

;0)

2,738 posted on 03/31/2005 9:25:21 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: spectre

Isn't that strange?

I about dropped my teeth when I saw people actually pushing Jesse's organization here.


2,739 posted on 03/31/2005 9:26:04 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: sinkspur
You were the one that pointed out Eichmann was a Nazi. His political affiliation has little to do with it. The book about his trial is a study in how Evil comes about.

The Fact that I was raising, is that Evil, is not the exclusive province of madmen like Jeffery Dahmer, they are fairly benign in the larger scheme of things.

The greater Evil exists when nameless faceless bureaucrats begin to merely follow the diktats of what they can hide in the letter of the law.

"I was only following orders" was not a sufficient rationale for keeping Eichmann from the gallows.

However, it is not hard to imagine that a refusal to do so would have also lead to his demise, In light of that, how much greater the evil perpetrated here, by men (particularly Greer, and Whittemore) in light of the fact that by doing the right thing they would have suffered no such consequence.

This woman has now departed this life, but in order for that to happen the 2 men in one branch of the government had to thwart the actions of the Chief Executives of both the state of Florida, and the United States, and the duly elected legislatures of both.

They did it willingly, and intentionally, following no conscience, and exercising no morality in their judgement.

2,740 posted on 03/31/2005 9:26:24 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "What every woman needs..." ; ))
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