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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

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To: Froufrou; Dark Skies
Looks are so deceiving, aren't they? Could it be that Anita wears the pants and that Paulus has dirty little secrets to 'compensate?'

Can I jump in on this one? As far as I am concerned, Paulus and Anita are nothing more than your typical 'enlightened' Eurotrash couple who give free rein to their children while setting poor examples themselves. I have no doubt whatsoever that both parents are aware of what Joran has done...they just don't think he should be punished for it. They are able to 'justify' non-punishment because the punishment of their 'child' will not bring another's child back. Remember...the Dutch are 'enlightened'. Americans, as seen by the Dutch...why, we are foolish cowboys (sarcasm on) who just can't wait for some romantic interlude away from home with some Euro 'sporter' like Joran.(/sarcasm off) Sheesh...those people are disgusting.

1,801 posted on 09/15/2005 6:15:35 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva
B A N

Boycott Aruba Now.

1,802 posted on 09/15/2005 6:23:27 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: truthluva
B A N

Boycott Aruba Now.

1,803 posted on 09/15/2005 6:24:02 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: truthluva

Hey TL...how's things going?


1,804 posted on 09/15/2005 6:24:21 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: Dark Skies; MAWG
Hey TL...how's things going?

Hey DS...just very disappointed in the ruling yesterday. Not surprised, but disappointed. I see no legal justice ahead in this case. I don't think they ever intended to truly investigate this matter. The 2 year time frame will mean nothing. Once again One Happy Island can make their false claims of "No evidence, No crime in Aruba". It wouldn't surprise me to see the Dutch/Aruban law changed so that no crimes are officially investigated during the first ten days of the commission of the crime.

The only justice that will be had in this matter will come from a higher power. Ten days don't mean squat to Him.

MAWG, I agree 100%. BOYCOTT ARUBA!!

1,805 posted on 09/15/2005 6:42:13 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: LegalEagle61; All

Thanks... this is terrific.. will do today and get several associates to do the same...

I have been out of the country so I have missed everyone.. once I have cleared off this desk.. will be back..


1,806 posted on 09/15/2005 7:04:32 AM PDT by Fritzy
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1,807 posted on 09/15/2005 7:27:59 AM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: MAWG

Oh, just heartsick over this. I am just amazed by the arrogance in Aruba.

Boycott, indeed.


1,808 posted on 09/15/2005 8:56:30 AM PDT by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears)
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To: Dark Skies; truthluva; MAWG; Malichi; texasbluebell; Abigail Adams

DS - Okay, lawyers are dull. Probably why I never went past the LSAT. But, I'm pretty sure their pay is directly equated with their skill, although that wouldn't apply to Buckets. How did he make duge in training without being a litigator? Never mind. We're talking Eurostuff.

truthie, I think you're right about the parents, if I may loosely refer to them in that way. Someone upthread said they felt NH was filmed in JVDS' room, and I think so, too. What's more, I think Beth knows it.

And Dark, I think the Posner angle makes sense if you allow that Buckets may not be the dullard you imagine. We know he likes to gamble...why not spice it up by gambling with people? He seems pretty well protected, thus far!


1,809 posted on 09/15/2005 9:37:32 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: truthluva

Did anyone catch Dr. Phil? Anything new? Were any details released about Natalee being in the PVDS house? I tend to agree with those that say Paul took a turn with Natalee and perhaps finished her off / got rid of her body. He has been fighting to protect himself as well as his son. Yes, addiction to danger / risk is a strong perverse motivator and people that play with it tend to get worse and worse.


1,810 posted on 09/15/2005 9:47:29 AM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: LongViewSC; truthluva; Dark Skies; MAWG

Isn't Dr. Phil on tonight, no wait! I think it's at 3:00 p.m. - and me without a t.v. at the office.


1,811 posted on 09/15/2005 9:50:58 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
I remember a saying from "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" that was something to the effect of "sweats by the bucket, mother**** it."

Do you remember that snippet of movie trivia?

1,812 posted on 09/15/2005 10:25:39 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: Dark Skies
Hey Ren, I will be glued to the TV with you at 3pm CDT.

Check out Dr. Phil's site for all the teasers.

http://www.drphil.com/

1,813 posted on 09/15/2005 10:32:55 AM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: Mama25

My husband and I honeymooned in Aruba 23 years ago and even stayed at the Holiday Inn International which I believe is the same hotel where Natalee had been staying. It has always been near and dear to our hearts and we were planning a return there one day but NEVER AGAIN!

We are sick about this for that family and even moreso that fellow human beings are so corrupt, unthinking and uncaring. I kept saying to hubby they can't take away our wonderful honeymoon all those years ago but this has really done a number and I'll never think of it in the same way now. How can I?


1,814 posted on 09/15/2005 11:03:08 AM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: BlueHorseShoe

I can think of only one reason for Americans to ever set foot in Aruba again. "Two eyes for an eye" - Joe M.


1,815 posted on 09/15/2005 11:14:13 AM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: truthluva
I suspect that you are correct about Anita (she knows what Joran did and ... she just doesn't think he should be punished for it. She is able to 'justify' non-punishment because the punishment of her 'child' will not bring another's child back. ...

He is just an excitable boy... Warren Zevon wrote a song about such... B.S."

1,816 posted on 09/15/2005 11:25:29 AM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: Malichi

Dr. Phil doesn't come on here until 5:00!


1,817 posted on 09/15/2005 11:41:49 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: BlueHorseShoe

That is a shame about your honeymoon. I understand.And I appreciate your committment to boycott Aruba. May I suggest the El Presidente Hotel on Cozumel Island.It is a very special place. Send me your EMAIL address in private and I will be glad to send you pictures and other info. if you like.


1,818 posted on 09/15/2005 11:43:17 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: MAWG

Well, not to be a whiner, but OJ Simpson also chose our anniversary date to do his murders. I'm not making a comparison to that horrendous event or the grief of the Holloway family but just that we seem to have encountered some strange coincidences there.

Hey, at least we're lucky to have a wonderful marriage!


1,819 posted on 09/15/2005 11:57:26 AM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: Dark Skies

I sure remember that movie! Wasn't that Kevin Spacey's line?


1,820 posted on 09/15/2005 12:39:42 PM PDT by Froufrou
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