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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 17

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

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KEYWORDS: boycottaruba; corruptlittleisland; deepakisarapist; jorandidit; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: Canadian Outrage

Targeting teens and young adults, this initiative seeks to educate teenagers and young adults about the dangers that can befall them if they are not aware of their surroundings or fail to have a plan in order to protect themselves from crime.
"What if Natalee had set up a plan with her friends?" Twitty said. "What if they had said before hand that they would leave the bar together? What if ...?"
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Watch aruba make very good use of this......before this week is over. It looks like a defacto admission of irresponsibility, even extending to before the kids left Alabama.

I'm under no illusions about this case, just thinking tactically, here.


2,581 posted on 01/08/2006 2:51:09 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: shebacal

>>>Currently, there are three salespeople directly contracted by AHATA, Donna Delgado in Washington, Mayline Menendez in Miami and Charly Ibarra in New York.<<<

Anyone here have their email addies? They need to be blitzed.


2,582 posted on 01/08/2006 3:02:48 PM PST by Palladin (All the way with Alito!)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I see your point but it also underscores the fact that Aruba is so dangerous that for safety YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN!!


2,583 posted on 01/08/2006 3:13:49 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Palladin

Yes, I agree, and there should be a way of getting their emails. Where is Lucy or Shebacal or penowa? They seem to find out everything.


2,584 posted on 01/08/2006 3:15:30 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Palladin; Canadian Outrage; shebacal

This might help to find email addresses for the new Aruba salespersons. It has more background info on these people.
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http://www.meetaruba.com/launchpr.html

AHATA Announces Launch of MEET ARUBA


The Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association has announced the official launch of MEET ARUBA as its new group marketing division. "MEET ARUBA represents a bold step for our association", explained Jorge Pesquera, President & CEO of AHATA, "a move that is representative of AHATA's vision and our board's commitment to delivering the best possible marketing services to our members and hospitality community at large". "This vision is to be recognized as the best group marketing entity in the Caribbean. This can only be accomplished by delivering a wide range of customized services to meeting planners that project Aruba as a 'top of mind'' meetings and incentives destination. Our association has the ability to integrate all those attributes that have made Aruba a great leisure destination with key elements that attract the attention of meeting and incentive planners. Presenting that powerful combination in a credible and consistent manner will be our main task moving forward. I am proud of the team we have put together; they are all seasoned professionals and we will provide them with great marketing tools to get our message out and book a lot of business", concluded Pesquera.

The MEET ARUBA team already in place includes Scott Wiggins, a well known Caribbean marketing veteran who has played a vital role in the success of Aruba as a leisure destination for more than a decade. Wiggins will maintain his main responsibilities as Sr. Director of Sales and Marketing for AHATA adding a new role as Executive Director of MEET ARUBA. "I am thrilled with this new challenge. It is a natural progression of my marketing responsibilities for North America and provides me and our association members with yet another valuable tool to attract a higher caliber of customers and generate increased revenues per occupied room on the island".

Wiggins will be initially supported by three well known personalities in their own right:

Charly Ibarra, the voice behind "Charly from Aruba" radio commercials that have made Aruba a household word is Director of Business Development based in New York. He will be working niche markets such as the African American and Hispanic meetings as well as specific SMERF segments (social, military, educational, religious and fraternal).

Donna Del Gallo, formerly with Hyatt and a former Associate Vice President of Association sales for the Puerto Rico Convention Bureau will create a new "buzz" in the association community and corporate markets in the north east. She is based in Washington DC.

Mayline Menendez, most recently with the Ritz Carlton in Coconut Grove also brings considerable destination sales experience and is focused on corporate and incentive markets throughout the South. She is based in Miami.

Administrative, financial, technical and membership liaison services for the MEET ARUBA team will be provided by AHATA's Aruba based management team.

"Our internal perceptions of Aruba''s group market potential were totally validated at a recent Meeting Planner Advisory Board held in August" said Wiggins. "We brought down a tough, high profile group of planners who handle association, corporate and incentive groups and asked them to kick the tires and tell us their opinions '- the good, the bad and the ugly'- and they found an overwhelmingly strong and sellable product".

Jeff Lesker, VP of Radisson Resorts Caribbean and Chairman of the Board of AHATA provided the following commentary: "AHATA's MEET ARUBA initiative is the culmination of a yearlong process of planning and putting the pieces of the puzzle in place. We look forward to working alongside our colleagues at the Aruba Tourism Authority to promote the best possible synergies between our collective efforts in all market segments. The launch of MEET ARUBA is borne out of our belief in the private sector''s ability to execute this particular aspect of Aruba''s overall destination marketing strategies in a most effective manner".

AHATA is one of the oldest hotel and tourism associations in the Caribbean and is currently celebrating its 40th anniversary. Its membership roster of close to 100 entities includes most of Aruba''s hotel and time share inventory as well a wide range of attractions and specialized support services.

For more information please contact:

Scott Wiggins at scott@ahata.com
Jorge Pesquera at jpesquera@ahata.com or
Rona Coster at ronacoster@setarnet.aw


2,585 posted on 01/08/2006 4:35:36 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: Palladin; Canadian Outrage; shebacal

http://www.aruba.com/phpNews/wmview.php?ArtID=278

August 06, 2003 - 15:36
ARUBA TOURISM AUTHORITY TAPS QUINN & CO. TO HANDLE PR UNDER THREE-YEAR CONTRACT


Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) has tapped Quinn & Co., a New York City-based public relations firm, to handle the USA PR effort for the island “where happiness lives.”

After a multi-stage PR review process, which culminated in a visit to the Big Apple to visit three finalist firms, Quinn & Co. was selected as the agency of record for ATA. The PR review committee consisted of Myrna Jansen-Feliciano, ATA director; Gina Lopez Gnecco, acting PR director; Theresita Chai, marketing manager USA; Marcial “Charly” Ibarra, ATA director North America; Scott Wiggins, Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association marketing representative; and Anabela Peterson de Sousa, a consultant for the Ministry of Tourism.

While Quinn & Co.’s official start date was July 16 and will run for a three-year tenure, they joined the Aruba family ahead of schedule and attended the island’s AHMSANA retreat on July 8-10 in Fort Lauderdale. It was here that Minister of Tourism and Transportation Edison Briesen signed the official contract.

“Aruba Tourism Authority is thrilled to have Quinn & Co. on board as part of the Aruba family,” said Minister Briesen. “Their experience and reputation in the travel industry coupled with their creativity and passion for Aruba will translate into increased awareness in the U.S. market for the island,” he concluded.

Carla Caccavale, one of the firm’s partners, will oversee the Aruba account. Caccavale serves as a member of the Caribbean Tourism Organization’s PR Council and supervises a number of the firm’s Caribbean accounts. Aruba holds a special place in her heart and the island’s stamp dominates her passport with nearly a dozen trips, both business and personal.

“We were overjoyed, literally jumping up and down, when the news about the ATA win came in,” said Caccavale. “There are many opportunities that we are excited to bring to fruition.”

Quinn & Co. specializes in creative branding and results-oriented public relations for travel industry clients. The firm has won numerous awards for its creative PR concepts including three prestigious Platinum Awards from the Hospitality Sales & Marketing Association International (HSMAI).


2,586 posted on 01/08/2006 4:41:02 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: RGVTx

Good stuff. So since the boycott hasn't affected them at all, they are pulling out the heavy artillery huh? What a joke. Just the pictures of Aruba's beaches tell the whole story without uttering a word.


2,587 posted on 01/08/2006 4:41:25 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Canadian Outrage; All

Just found this advertisement:

Aruba: 6 Nights in 1-Bedroom Suite w R/T Air $699 (from anywhere in the US)


2,588 posted on 01/08/2006 4:58:16 PM PST by LucyT (Where is a mooslimb-free country?)
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To: LucyT

Sounds awful expensive to me (for a third world cesspool like Aruba) that is.!!


2,589 posted on 01/08/2006 5:25:00 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: shebacal

You know it occured to me that Aruba is fighting like a she cat for tourism dollars but they have NO interest in Prosecuting Natalee's rapists/murderers. Tell ya something??? Sure does me.


2,590 posted on 01/08/2006 5:27:18 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: RGVTx
August 06, 2003
ARUBA TOURISM AUTHORITY TAPS QUINN & CO. TO HANDLE PR UNDER THREE-YEAR CONTRACT

Looks like Quinn & Co were fired. Their contract would expire in July 2006. NBTC will take over.
2,591 posted on 01/08/2006 5:51:35 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: LucyT

Today's ad in the Sunday Papers:

Aruba: Mixing sun with savings.

sounds like a bank with a skylight, that will sure draw the tourists.

What a joke.

Arubadirtypolice


2,592 posted on 01/08/2006 7:25:05 PM PST by deetch (Frank)
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To: RGVTx

Thanks RGVTx,

I just sent all three of them an email. I told them that indeed they have truth on their side.

Send her home and bury a stake through Paulus van der sloot and you may, possibly avoid a boycott that has yet to even begin.


2,593 posted on 01/08/2006 7:31:22 PM PST by deetch (Frank)
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To: deetch; RGVTx; shebacal; presently no screen name; justche; Vn_survivor_67-68; Canadian Outrage; ...

Remember the missing cruise passenger, George Smith?

B'KLYN MAN QUIZZED IN CRUISE CASE
(taped group sex orgy - fingered in honeymooner's disappearance)

A strapping 20-year-old Russian from Brooklyn who partied hard with missing cruise passenger George Smith the night he vanished is the target of an FBI probe into the case.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1554034/posts
To: Liz
First you have one story saying that witnesses saw them in the bar, apparently with this group, and that they started arguing and jennifer kicked Smith in the crotch.

Now we find out that the guys they were partying with were pervs into group sex.

Is it a big leap to put 2 and 2 together and figure out what young hubby said to wife that made her give him the ole nad boot. it also explains why she was found sleeping it off in a corridor as far away from thier cabin as possible.


17 posted on 01/08/2006 7:24:50 AM MST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
To: BluH2o

Wasn't she observed working out in the ships gym later that morning, unaware her husband was missing, or, seemingly unconcerned? This women knows far more than she's telling investigators.

She was getting a massage, and yes, she was somewhat flippant as to the whereabouts of her new hubby. She seemingly does know more, and perhaps is not hiding involvement in his death, but instead something that might be very embarassing. Perhaps she is the woman in the group sex incident that was videotaped.


79 posted on 01/08/2006 11:41:23 AM MST by RedWhiteBlue

To: Liz
was the wife ever tested for ghb?

could she have been drugged and used by this and others for the same video shenanigans on the cruise, the hubbie found out, and he ended up murdered trying to address this fellow about it?

developing..

80 posted on 01/08/2006 11:49:03 AM MST by NormsRevenge


2,594 posted on 01/08/2006 8:49:15 PM PST by LucyT (Where is a mooslimb-free country?)
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To: All

Dutch lawmaker wants border shut to Muslims .. (Excerpted)

THE HAGUE: Maverick right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said yesterday he would weed out radical Muslims by sealing the border to non - Western immigrants for five years and shutting down mosques advocating fundamentalism.

Wilders, who inherited the populist mantle of slain politician Pim Fortuyn, told The Associated Press in an interview that the Netherlands must take strong measures to stamp out Islamic fundamentalism - or face the collapse of the country’s democratic system.

“We were asleep for too long,” he said. “The Netherlands has been too tolerant to intolerant people for too long.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1553972/posts


2,595 posted on 01/08/2006 9:45:27 PM PST by LucyT (Where is a mooslimb-free country?)
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To: shebacal
Hi! Just emailed Aruba Tourism Authority. Rather than give them suggestions on how to improve their website, I told them how to improve Aruba. Clean up your law enforcement agency & justice system. Investigation into NH disappearace is a disgrace, a farce. Etc. etc. If they do not (will not?) solve this case, Aruba will carry this ugly stain for a long time.

While I don't expect one email (hope they've received others) to make a dent, I feel a bit better by telling them.

While they may be incompetent to handle a criminal investigation, they have given us every reason to believe they are covering up...protecting someone. Gee, why does Paulos jump into my mind?

2,596 posted on 01/08/2006 10:48:31 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: shebacal
"...PSDS...retaliate...revealing the corruption..."

Spot on to you, Shebacal. Blackmail among the evildoers.

"You protect my a__, I'll look out for yours." IMO you got it right. It's so damned obvious!

2,597 posted on 01/08/2006 11:17:37 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: IIntense

I wrote the last night and actually got a response this morning.

"You must be a good caring man, to be propelled to write.

However, I have no clue what you are talking about in “confirm what we already know and justice will be done.”

The island of Aruba did its best to seek truth and spared no resources in the investigation.

Justice is a way on life here.

We are as sorry as you are over the mystery of the disappearing teen.


2,598 posted on 01/09/2006 7:01:25 AM PST by deetch (Frank)
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To: LucyT

maybe hubby was more interested in the russkie boys than her. Could be......she's been quiet, publicly, at least.


2,599 posted on 01/09/2006 8:31:24 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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mark


2,600 posted on 01/09/2006 8:39:09 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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