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To: DaveLoneRanger; mlc9852; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; curiosity; hurly
I am unable to accept the famed "Man Tracks" in the Paluxy limestone near glen Rose, TX, (because I know who carved them, and I have run my fingers over his chisel marks).

How, then, do you expect me to accept a report in a Russian newspaper that has this marvelously quantitative statement:

Bushev said that every metre of the half-kilometre-wide rock surface is covered by three-toed footprints ‘made by giant dinosaurs making their morning or evening promenade along the ancient sea-shore’. The Turkmenian plateau contains more than 3,000 footprints.

That wonderfully one-dimensional surface has at least one track per meter. (That's 500 -- minimum). But the entire Turkmenian plateau contains only "more than 3,000 footprints".

If the exposed track zone were only six (6) meters "long", (it's already 500 meters "wide") at a density of roughly one per (square) meter, it would contain the entire "Turkmenian plateau's" tracks.

With that journalistic 'marvel of precise observation' as the only submitted evidence, I can most readily dismiss the linked "report" -- and hereby do so.

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Even the creationist website to which you linked felt forced to post this disclaimer:

Note: This article is a factual account of a genuine, sober report in the Russian newspaper. However, one needs to be cautious about accepting the prints described on the basis of just this report. None of our sources has been able to obtain any further information on the prints, nor any photograph to this date. It is presented for the information of readers, and to show how these particular evolutionists interpreted evidence which seemed to contradict the whole concept.

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Nice try! No Sale!!!


382 posted on 05/01/2006 5:58:53 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: TXnMA

Thanks for your insights, TXnMA!


455 posted on 05/01/2006 9:52:58 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: TXnMA
I am unable to accept the famed "Man Tracks" in the Paluxy limestone near glen Rose, TX, (because I know who carved them, and I have run my fingers over his chisel marks).

I think even Glen J. Kuban, who has probably spent more time investigating these tracks than just about anybody else, and who does not accept the tracks as human, would not buy the assertions that these tracks were carved, that you know the person that carved them, and that you have run your fingers over the chisel marks:

"The Taylor Site contains a long trail of deeply impressed dinosaur tracks, and several shallower trails, four of which have been claimed by many creationists to be human: the Giant Run Trail, the Turnage Trail, the Taylor Trail, and the Ryals Trail (which includes a large hole reported to be the spot from which a human track was removed many years ago). Many of these alleged "man tracks" were fairly shallow and more or less oblong in shape, and did not match the shape of any dinosaur tracks known to the Taylor crew. Some of the these tracks did vaguely resemble human footprints, however, many of the tracks also showed problematic (non-human) features (discussed further below). This site has received more acclaim than other "man track" sites for the following reasons: 1) The elongated tracks on this site are numerous and occur in clear right-left sequences; 2) At least some of these tracks were excavated from under previously undisturbed strata, precluding the possibility that they are carvings or erosion marks; 3) Many of them show "mud push-ups" and other features confirming that they are real tracks and not erosion marks or carvings; 4) Several of the "man tracks" were reported to show clear human toe marks when first uncovered[4] (although no published photographs have ever shown this); and 5) Three of the alleged human trails (Taylor, Turnage, and Giant Run) intersect the trail of deep and distinct dinosaur tracks, providing clear evidence that the elongated tracks and the deep dinosaur tracks were made at approximately the same time."
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/tsite.htm"
Cordially,
1,061 posted on 05/03/2006 7:29:54 AM PDT by Diamond
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