Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Developing....
School Shooting injures one person,
Hostage situation may be developing.
Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County
Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.
Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting
NICKEL MINES, Pa. — At least two female students and one slightly older female — who may have been a teacher's aide — were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.
State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.
"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.
Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.
After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims — some critically wounded — were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.
To be real honest, I was appalled when heard that a teacher left and ran from the school. BUT, we have no idea of the circumstances and can think of all kinds of scenarios that could have been unfolding along with panic. But it is clear that her presence in that room was not going to save those kids.
That helps! Thank you.
Damn I wish the sniper would have took this fellow out before he killed those innocent girls.
They need to start locking doors at schools...this is getting out of hand! This fellow broke in, but others have came right in through open doors. Resource officers or teachers need to be at every entrance and exit making sure people that enter are supposed to be there. Fences need to be installed around entire school with a dual gates to keep people off the premises.
Coward! How does a grown man have a grudge against little girls who weren't even born 20 years ago!
I don't think TXBubba should have been flamed and zotted off the thread. Why is not okay to simply wonder why the teachers left the room? I think it is important to talk about situations like this and what one might do considering the apparent increase in this kind of violence. Remember that kid last week, the one who lied and said he stayed behind with the girls in room at the school in CO. The mother said her son lied because he wanted for it to be true. Maybe that kid is now haunted by leaving the room. Who knows? When Sean Hannity said people "eat their own" on this board, he might have been right.
The Amish in our area select the smartest female, usually in their later teens, to teach their children. These girls are not prepared in any way to deal with such a situation.
The children are very well schooled, by the way. Their 8th grade is equivalent to our high school, except perhaps in math and science. The level of math they do have is excellent, just not advanced, like calculus...
It is important to understand that Amish communities vary in their strictness and adherence to rules. Some are very strict, and some less so, regarding the use of modern technologies.
For example, they may use certain tools, like automatic nailers, if they are "working out" for us English, as carpenters. But, they may not use these when building for themselves.
We work with them, and they are honest, trusting, and generous people, who go out of their way to be kind to everyone. Unfortunately, they are frequently taken advantage of by the unscrupulous "English". and it is true that some locals are actually hostile toward them, primarily because of their work ethic, I think....
Just heard on MSNBC that he was up for a drug test today, not sure what that means.
Thanks fro the article. Very interesting.
It said he's 32 and his wife said he's upset at something that happened to him 20 yearsx ago. I wonder what happened between him and the Amish when he was 12.
Some evil sorts loathe decency and morality because it is so foreign and unreachable to them, supposedly.
The state police who did the presser said he did not think there was a connection to the Amish school...just that it was convenient to carry out his revenge. I'm not sure I buy that yet.
The coroner has retracted that statement once again. He originally said six dead, then changed it to four, then to five - the 3 girls and the gunman in the school and one more died at the hospital.
That could have changed again, but all the latest are saying 5.
That's a rational thought... but I doubt it was the factor. I'd guess the techer left because of fear. That's just my guess.
Treat this thread like an obituary or prayer thread for the children and their loved ones. Theories and finger pointing should be saved for other threads - and I'm sure there'll be plenty of them.
I heard on Fox that this was a routine drug test for truck driving purposes -- no criminal/drug history.
I'm in favor of lots of methods to protect children.
I'd even be in favor, if a responsible male child or perhaps even female used to handling guns . . . arm the most responsible student as well as the teacher--concealed.
She was asked to stop blaming the teacher by many people and continued to do so.
That's why the zot. It was a good call.
Please ... give ... the ... subject ... a ... rest. You weren't there.
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