Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Developing....
School Shooting injures one person,
Hostage situation may be developing.
Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County
Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.
Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting
NICKEL MINES, Pa. — At least two female students and one slightly older female — who may have been a teacher's aide — were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.
State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.
"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.
Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.
After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims — some critically wounded — were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.
Pretty please, just STFU. Really.
And how many of us actually carry firearms with us on a daily basis? Nobody I know unless it's hunting season.
New conference at 10AM per Fox News
Will you please save it for another day? Nothing short of at least two armed men in front of the school during the school day would have prevented this.
EST or CST??
I think they said six deaths total now. I hope I heard that wrong.
The police had the means and the equipment to make contact with the perp.
I believe they were acting in accordance to their faith. Hoping that someone could help resolve this without violence.
I would hope we could all curtail the 2nd Amendment debate on this thread and save it for another time. This is not the time or place for such. This wasn't a large public school. It was a one-room schoolhouse in the middle of the country. Nothing short of two armed men posted at the school every school day would have stopped this evil man - and that simply will not happen at every one-room Amish school (and there are thousands of them). We need to realize that guns cannot stop all evil - that sometimes, evil will destroy the most vulnerable to targets just because it can, and there is nothing we can do about it but mourn afterwards.
Thanks for the update. So 3 years becomes 9 years? Sheesh!
As for "Nothing short of two armed men posted at the school every school day would have stopped this evil man", I disagree. One individual on the scene with the proper mindset, armed or not, reacting in proper fashion the second the incident begins, often stops such atrocities in short order.
Been there, done that.
Good post, dirtboy.
"...And how many of us actually carry firearms with us on a daily basis? Nobody I know unless it's hunting season..."
Many people carry defensive firearms. It has been estimated legally-owned sidearms are used over 2,000,000 times per year (with rarely a shot fired) by private citizens to prevent crime. Hopefully more and more states will wisely turn either "aqua" or, better yet, "green" in the map below:
~ Blue Jays ~
From the presser:
They indicated they are still in process of outreach to find out if the numerous offers of assistance will be accepted.
That can wait for another thread, IMO. You will not change that person's mind, he is a very distinct minority on FR, and all it does is detract from the larger tragedy.
One individual on the scene with the proper mindset, armed or not, reacting in proper fashion the second the incident begins, often stops such atrocities in short order.
Not in this case. The perp was a local. He was not in a position where he would be suspected of wrongdoing until it went down. He could have easily taken out one unsupecting armed man.
Let's let this one go from a 2nd A viewpoint. He could have just as easily driven his milk truck through the school and killed even more people, not gun requied, no way to stop him.
"...One individual on the scene with the proper mindset, armed or not, reacting in proper fashion the second the incident begins, often stops such atrocities in short order. Been there, done that..."
We're in 100% agreement. It is not as if the non-gunowners are feeling grief while the gunowners are smug. It is safe to say any sane FReeper feels enormous sadness over this terrible crime. You are right that the outrageous posts attempting to eliminate Constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms cannot go unanswered.
~ Blue Jays ~
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