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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: drierice
-- When has a president's citizenship ever been questioned before? --

Chester Arthur, elected VP, assumed the presidency. At the time, there were rumors that he was born in Canada. In the following, see the last few paragraphs of Q&A No. 14.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2275574/posts

4,921 posted on 08/03/2009 4:16:30 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: nikos1121
It was a one page document with the items “written in.” I think it actually used the same form.

It was not the same form. And it was not a forgery, it was nothing more than a joke. A forgery has to have at least some chance of being taken seriously.

The background, made to look like alter-proof paper, said over and over again, in Dutch, something like "This is not a government document. It is meant for amusement only. Obama is your President for another three and a half years. Get used to it"

No one can call this a forgery. It is merely a satire.

4,922 posted on 08/03/2009 4:21:54 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: thesearethetimes...

That’s why the staple holes are there. This was part of the divorce.


4,923 posted on 08/03/2009 4:22:45 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: FTJM

They are unsealed.


4,924 posted on 08/03/2009 4:24:40 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
...some high school kid who’s good at editing images.

VERY good. Actually this is not an image manipulation type forgery, if it is one. It is the old fashioned kind: a real duplication of a government form, that needs to dublicate type style, paper type, layout, look and fee, it has to get the basics right, and it has to look aged, but not too aged.

I doubt any high school kid could carry something lijke this off. this would need a skilled and knowledgeable forger. If it is a forgery.

I personallly beleive it is genuine, but who knows. I have an openmind. Almost all the critiques I read to day range from the insubstantial to the metaphysical. But the real analysis has yet to begin.

4,925 posted on 08/03/2009 4:28:57 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: MeekOneGOP

Well one thing is sure. If as some have said this is a well planned fake. They will have to stand before a JUDGE and admitt a public hoax against the POTUS. Come on Soros...be a man, did you fund the faking of this Doc. DUer’s.....are you saving up for a trip to Florida? Dems are so stupid they don’t realize how dangerous this is if they have actually faked a Government Document.

OR IS IT REAL?


4,926 posted on 08/03/2009 4:29:52 AM PDT by Marty62
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To: carcraft

plus dissing Brown, touching the Queen...he’s given them reason to be P.O.’d.


4,927 posted on 08/03/2009 4:33:45 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: 4FreeSpeach

Your right....I must have had a previous post lurking in my mind when I read your post. Please accept my apologies. I AGREE with your post.


4,928 posted on 08/03/2009 4:33:51 AM PDT by Marty62
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To: cookcounty

“Lingua franca”


4,929 posted on 08/03/2009 4:36:04 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Tennessee Nana; BP2
Hope the Kenyan document is the real Mccoy...

so do I...but if it isn't, then Stanley Ann presented a fake to establish the ID of her son when she applied for the divorce.

4,930 posted on 08/03/2009 4:36:08 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Mount Athos; 4FreeSpeach

If Obama’s mother was getting a divorce in Hawaii, and had to prove to the judge there was a child produced from the marriage, then why did she have to send to Kenya to get that proof? She could have just obtained the birth certificate in Honolulu if he was born there. Even she knew she had to get the document, even a copy, from the place of birth.


4,931 posted on 08/03/2009 4:38:35 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: Diggity

Ebay guy was a fake (according to Ed, who cannot necessarily be trusted), yes. This is all according to Ed, but last year he DID claim that three copies of the Kenyan BC were obtained and in the hands of three separate individuals.


4,932 posted on 08/03/2009 4:39:13 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Eagle Forgotten
"Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because 'he’s afraid for his life.'"

That certainly makes sense, considering that we already have one suspicious death with possible linkages to this matter. If that document was produced as part of the divorce, then the anonymous person might well be an employee of the law firm that handled it, who just happened to be browsing through the firm's dusty archives. At a minimum, he (she) should be in fear of losing his (her) job.

4,933 posted on 08/03/2009 4:39:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Too bad presidents don't come with certificates of authenticity.)
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To: Polarik

I wanted to read your evaluation of the posted document. Now that I have seen it, I have to say, I was disappointed and not impressed. There is very little substance to your post.

The “shuck & jive” about the numbers and especially the E. F. Lavender reference is juvenile. Either the numbers lead to a recorded document or they don’t, either E. F. Lavender is a real person in this position or he is not. I see nothing to prove or discount this but it should be revealed in court, if it gets I far.

I suspect there are just as many, or more, in the states that can produce a quality forgery (there is big money in fake historical documents). Some documents, as well as things such as paintings have fooled experts but I doubt this is of that level (if it is fake) since all the pertinent information should be easily verified.

The document does not purport to be a Governmental birth registry from 1961, it is presented as a February 1964 document that is a true copy of the birth registry. The only valid point here is when the name “REPUBLIC of Kenya was used. Do you have any information on that (other than a generic statement about when it became the Republic of Kenya), this too should be easy to verity.

I also haven’t found anything to verify your assertion that the hospital was called “Coast PROVINCIAL General Hospital”. What I have found indicated that it was know as Mombasa Hospital (at the time of Obama’s birth), was changed to Katherine Bibby Hospital and then changed back to Mombasa Hospital. It could have been referred to differently by locals, do you know this to be the case.

As for the Israeli Intelligence reference, that seems to be another generic statement. Is there a specific reference to this hospital (perhaps a little sleuthing would have narrowed it down) and did they check beyond hospital records.... such as district records..

I would like someone with document experience (thought it was going to be you) to post an analysis, if not I will post my own (for what it’s worth) later.


4,934 posted on 08/03/2009 4:39:36 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: livius

I’d love to see a survey on the “sexual preferences” of those “white liberals.”


4,935 posted on 08/03/2009 4:43:04 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: truthfreedom
truthfreedom: You are stating things as if you knew they actually happened. Your name doesn't fit the fantasy world in which you are living. It's obvious that most on this thread are having trouble separating fact from fiction. If you have actual known FACTS, post them. If you are dreaming, go back to bed and stop wasting everyone's time.

Sheesh, this whole issue has gone into Fantasyland. Are there any cartoons with this movie? Oy, it's giving me schpilkis.

4,936 posted on 08/03/2009 4:52:06 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Mount Athos

The question is, does the constitution provide for a republican-style government?


4,937 posted on 08/03/2009 4:54:16 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: bgill

I agree with you. I cringe whenever that DU term is used. Rather like black people calling each other the N word.


4,938 posted on 08/03/2009 4:55:20 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Here’s the information about provenance from WND: “Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because ‘he’s afraid for his life.’”

I have a different possible explanation for the source's reluctance. I think he could have purloined the document from Hawaii courthouse records, which I believe would be a criminal offense, and coming forward could jeopardize his freedom, maybe interfering with making a buck or two.

But, if that IS what happened, then he NEEDS to come forward with the honest truth, come what may, in order to establish the provenance and authenticity of the document.

Or, if the holder of the document KNOWS it to be genuine due to where and how he acquired it, then he may assume that it can be validated in orher ways, such as checking the data contained in the document. If this is his intent then the document itself diminishes in importance, and becomes essentially a treasure map. If indeed the underlying document exists at the specified location (Book 44B, Page 5733), then who cares what the proffered secondary document looked like, or who signed it or if he had a funny name.

4,939 posted on 08/03/2009 4:55:48 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: STARWISE

I feel sorry for Eric Lavender...a storm is headed his way...

Has anyone attempted to contact him?


4,940 posted on 08/03/2009 4:55:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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