Posted on 09/14/2009 1:33:00 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen
During a hearing in U.S. District Court Monday, an attorney for an Army officer fighting deployment to Iraq questioned Barack Obama’s legal right to serve as president, asserting he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.
Judge Clay Land, inquisitive throughout the 90-minute hearing, said he will issue a decision on Capt. Connie Rhodes’ request for a temporary restraining order by noon Wednesday.
Rhodes was represented by Orly Taitz, a California lawyer and a national figure in the “birther” movement that claims Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president.
California attorney Orly Taitz, the president of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, stands on the steps of the Columbus federal courthouse Friday with what she claims is a copy of a birth certificate for President Barack Obama from Mombass, British Protectorate of Kenya.
Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington, told Land this case was about Rhodes, not Obama.
“There was a lack of any reference to Capt. Rhodes,” Ausprung said. “This case is about Capt. Rhodes and her deployment.”
Taitz kept going back to Obama’s birth certificate. Twice she called Obama a “usurper.”
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Did you know we are in the “smokey back room”? I have never been in here before. Do they serve white russians?
LOL. Nope, just Pabst Blue Ribbon.
PLEASE read posts 135,173,193 !
Let’s WIN ! Not waste our time fighting childish trolls !
And quote a single state's law that mandates the Secretary of State will check documents themselves? You can't, there are none. Every single state accepts the candidates from the two major parties unquestioned. And of the challenges you mentioned were made on minor party candidates which are held to a different standard.
I am advocating passing laws requiring more than Nancy Pelosi’s signature to claim elegibility, though we aren’t even sure the version of the Nominee Declaration sent to the states did even that.
Sure you are.
You, OTOH, are an Obama chinslurp.
As inaccurate claim, as your stuff usually is.
NS is a typical disguting leftist, with the whine of ‘no controlling legal authority’. Immoral people use the arguments of the NS types. It is to be ignored that Barry posted fraudulent documents trying to pose as eligible. It is to be ignored that NS’s messiah has used fraud to promote himself. We are to look past those realities and address the goreish ‘no controlling legal authority’ matra. Isn’t it time to ignore the pondscum the moderators refuse to deal with? Isn’t it becoming obvious that NS is a protected species at FR?
Here they are:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19712996/Kerry-2004-Cert
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19712995/Gore-2000-Cert
Were these real or have they since been debunked ?
You got it!
I don’t know...have they?
I can guarantee that whatever fun you're having with me is nothing compared to the fun I'm having with all y'all.
The numbers are one after the other looks to me like they’ve been recently put into scribd...what do you think?
“Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz. The judge pointed out that burden fell on Rhodes because she sought the restraining order to stop her deployment.
Based on the affidavit you posted, which raises some reasonable doubt about Obama being a natural born citizen, the burden should shift to Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen
I think the judge and the government lawyer, are attempting to place the entire burden on the plaintiff when it should rest very heavily on Obama since he is the one who claimed in his filings to be constitutionally qualified.
Since this complaint, while in the form of a civil action, is actually an issue of quo warranto. As such, the burden is on the person claiming the rigght to the office.
i think they may have come from Justin Riggs but I am not positive, he started this off last year
http://www.blogcatalog.com/search.frame.php?term=justin+riggs&id=9f9642f09e6c7e1d01c64d75eafdd356
I see, Chinslurp. They can take the time to look at the records for 3rd party candidates, but will trust Nancy Pelosi when it comes to major parties? With morons like that in the positions of SOS, no wonder we are in the mess we’re in.
So yes, we’ll pass laws telling the SOS’s to do their f***** jobs properly.
In the meantime, it is 2009, with 3 years left on the maxist quisling’s fraudulent first term. And you want him to finish that term. Look up chinslurp in the dictionary, and you’ll find your photo.
” Does anyone notice that Obama is sitting unusually close to the other man on the sofa. They look like girlfriend and boyfriend. “
Men don’t usually sit so close and in such physical proximity to each other,
especially if there is ample room to spread out on the couch.
IIRC, the other guy on the couch is Sohale Siddiqi , Obama’s Pakistani Muslim roommate and best friend for years.
Siddiqi admitted dealing drugs out of the aptmnt he shared with Barry in NYC.
Not sure if Siddiqi engaged in the same activity at Occidental College in Los Angeles where he first met Barry.
In an unusual coincidence ,
one of Obama’s good friends in high school was arrested for drug possession.
Page 95 -” Dreams From My Father.”
The same media that went beserk over George Bush’s single DUI at 18 has shown no interest in Obama’s admitted drug use
and his long association with drug users and dealers.
How inexplicable...
Post #115 answers your question as it does that of the judge.
Here's a few examples of what was done in Cal.
In 1968 the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for president, and then-Secretary of State Frank Jordan "found that, according to Mr. Cleaver's birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for president."
USJF explained that "using his administrative powers, Mr. Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States."
The USJF said similarly, in 1984, Peace and Freedom Party candidate Larry Holmes was removed from the ballot.
Even in the 2008 campaign, foreign-born third-party candidate Roger Calero was removed from ballots in some states, according to elections reports.
Obama, meanwhile, has refused to document his U.S. citizenship and, therefore, his eligibility to be president under the Constitution's requirement for a "natural born" citizen, his challengers say.
It is my observation coupled with what you said on this thread that you are now juts having fun. You're having fun is disengenuous and tiresome when many of of us are seeking the truth. On this issue you are just flat out wrong, as the examples indicate. The secretaries of state have the reposibility to ensure that the candidates on the ballot are qualified. The fact that they let the parties fill out a form and have the candidate's sign it does not mean they don't have the authority to do more; again as the examples illustrate. Also, they have done this with numerous state candidates. You continue to confusde current practice with the responsib9lity and power to enforce the constitution; an oath taken by the congress, the USSC, and the secretaries of state in each state. The only way to do that on this issue is to require the birth certificate and supporting documents. The fact that they didn't just indicates that they possibly allowed someone to commit the biggest fraud in the history of the country. A crime you don't seem to care about.
Class is over again. I won't waste any more time on you tonight.
You know you’re a Chinslurp if:
* You believe the Secretaries of States have no obligation to ensure that only valid candidates appear on the ballot.
* You spend all waking hours on a conservative forum railing against those who would force Obama to present his records
* You think the COLB, presented to Kos and Factcheck is validation of NBC status.
* Think Factcheck is a centrist group of concerned reporters and not a pack of rabid left wing activists.
* You think the burden of proof regarding eleigibility falls to the citizens and not to the candidate.
* You think simple, clear Constitutional mandates can be ignored because some dumb f*** bureaucrat hasn’t written down the a ‘process’ in the federal register.
* You think an inexperienced lawyer working her arse off to force Obama’s vetting is more dangerous to the republic than a marxist quisling as POTUS.
* You think walking around with Obama’s man juice on your breath is a status symbol in this conservative neighborhood.
Well I disagree with your disagree that non-Sequitur is a demrat troll. NS is the consummate FR troll. Not only does he troll these eligibility threads, he trolls in FR in general.
Some multiple links of NS doing his thang ...trolling:
NS attacking Hannity over-waterboarding terrorist and defending his hero Kieth Olbermann.
Oh, here is NS loving the fact when Franken gets to the Senate and Sotomayor gets her SCOTUS bench job.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2260841/posts?page=10#10
And here's our little troll NS spinning that no Repub will get Uncle Teddy's Senator seat, not even former Red Sox pitcher Curt Shilling. Waaaaah, noway man! Mass stays Commie in the Senate!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2330844/posts?page=19#19
NS poo poos Rove's idea of of the Republicans winning back Congress.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2197157/posts?page=2#2
NS hated the idea that Tedisco may win in NY as Dick Morris says. We can't have that can we since it's a Rat held seat. Right NS?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news">/2220834/posts?page=8#8
NS doesn't like a state, New Hampshire, asserting their 10th Amendment rights against the Rat held federal government. Waaaah goes NS!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2192039/posts?page=11#11
NS defending Obama's takover the the auto industry. You like Trabants don't you NS?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2267434/posts?page=21#21
You disagreed and I back my post up of NS spinning and defending socialists and Commies all over the place. There must thousands of FRs Non Sequitur troll posts. There's no question he's a Rat troll. I only provided you with a few examples.
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