Additionally, regarding the absolute denial versus the Glomar response to TerriK's request, remember that Okubo was not abiding by the required UIPA/OIP rules in her initial responses to TerriK. IIRC, when Leo got involved and pointed out that Okubo was required to indicate that a record didn't exist, she then began using the required responses.
If it was a doctor-attended birth there would be no need for multiple documents for an original birth certificate. If the birth was reported by someone other than the mother or father there would be a need for supporting documents.
So when OIP Director Tsukiyama indicated that the denial of access to supplemental records offered as evidence to support the claims on the original or amended BC was a proper response, he was confirming that either the original BC was completed on the basis of testimony from someone besides doctor, father, or mother, OR the BC was amended at some point OR both.
Fukino’s use of the plural “records” is completely in line with what Tsukiyama confirmed through that UIPA appeal.
When OIP attorney Linden Joesting indicated that the denial of access to receipts and invoices for Obama amending his BC was a proper response, she confirmed that Obama paid a fee to amend his BC.
Neither attorney at the OIP needed Leo to tell them what is a proper response to UIPA. OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama wrote the UIPA manual which describes the process and Cathy Takase (one of the attorneys who responded to Terri K in this process) was the one who wrote OIP Opinion Letter 07-01, which describes how a Glomar response is to be used. Both of those documents were written before Terri K made her requests.
If it was just the DOH who was standing by their responses to Terri K I’d say you have a point. But OIP staff attorneys (including the Director) confirmed the accuracy and appropriateness of the responses in 2 different appeals. Both appeals were answered by official letters saying that the denial of access was the proper response.
IOW, the DOH was checked for accuracy in both of those cases and the people who have written the rules on how these responses must be made issued legal statements saying their rules were followed and the responses given were proper.
Donofrio only followed up on what Terri K was already doing at the time. I believe she already figured out what the required responses were supposed to be and got help to make sure she understood them. Donofrio was working with Terri K, but they had a disagreement over something and parted ways. Then Donofrio dropped the ball on the UIPA effort. Regardless, there’s no reason here to make excuses for the DOH or Spokesbabe Okubo when none fit.
Also, I’m glad you admit there could be mulitple documented to obtain a birth certificate. By citing unknown vital records, Chiyome Fukino acknowledged Obama’s original birth certificate did not confirm birth in Hawaii. Since the COLB is only an abstract of that original birth certificate,then it too would not confirm birth in Hawaii.
Now the questions are what were these phantom documents and why not let the public see them?? How reliable are these documents??