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How the Worst President Ever Ended Up on a Controverisal New Coin (James Buchanan)
AOL News ^ | 8-19-2010 | Alex Eichler

Posted on 08/21/2010 7:17:45 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

Today, the U.S. Treasury released a $1 coin commemorating former President James Buchanan. And people aren't happy about it.

To understand why, some background is helpful. In 2007, thanks to a bill promoted by then-Senator John Sununu of New Hampshire, the Treasury began minting $1 coins with the likenesses of former Presidents, starting with George Washington.

The coins -- which have been appearing ever since, featuring a new President every three months -- are meant to improve use and circulation of America's dollar coins, which are often seen as an awkward misfit among currency, neither fish nor fowl.

Sununu's initiative drew inspiration from the 50 State Quarters Program, which launched in 1999. The runaway success of that effort, according to his legislation, "shows that a design on a U.S. circulating coin that is regularly changed... radically increases demand for the coin, rapidly pulling it through the economy."

The bill also suggested that a program wherein Presidents are featured on a succession of $1 coins, and First Spouses commemorated on gold $10 coins, could help correct a state of affairs where "many people cannot name all of the Presidents, and fewer can name the spouses, nor can many people accurately place each President in the proper time period of American history."

So the bill passed, and the Washington dollar coin appeared not long after. It was followed by Adams, Jefferson, et al., with the First Spouse coins minted alongside.

Now we're up to Buchanan, the fifteenth President, who took office in 1857 and turned things over to Abraham Lincoln in 1861, and whose coin (produced at the Philadelphia and Denver Mints and purchasable through the U.S. Mint website) has occasioned the aforementioned grousing. Here's where some feel the coin program is falling short:

1. The coins aren't circulating.

Many Americans have never gotten into the habit of using $1 coins, and as a result, over a billion commemorative Presidential coins are sitting around in a stockpile at the Federal Reserve. As BBC News reports, if these coins were stacked up and laid on their side, they'd stretch for 1,367 miles, or the distance from Chicago to New Mexico.

2. They don't seem to be educating people, either.

In February 2008, a year after the first presidential coins were minted, The New York Times reported that a survey had found large numbers of American teens to be woefully ignorant of their country's history. It was far from the first time Americans had gotten a dismal grade in history, suggesting that Sununu's commemorative-coin campaign isn't having much of an effect in that arena, either.

3. James Buchanan was kind of a crappy president.

In fairness, this is a grievance with a specific president, not the presidential coins program as a whole. Still, it seems to come up in all the coverage of the new coin: Buchanan wasn't very good at his job.

That's the consensus of historians, anyway, who have traditionally censured Buchanan for his failure to prevent the Civil War. Last year, a C-SPAN survey of historians granted Buchanan the dubious distinction of worst president ever.

Still, all of this isn't reason enough to declare the commemorative-coins program a total failure. If more coin collectors start avidly pursuing the presidential coins, it could have the effect of pushing down the national debt, thanks to the way the value of the coins fluctuates with their availability. And if the dollar coins were to catch on and replace paper $1 bills entirely, it could save the country between $500 and $700 million each year in printing costs.

Plus, if things stay on track, 2012 will see the release of the Chester A. Arthur dollar coin -- marking the first time that long non-commemorated president's face has ever appeared on any nation's currency. And who are we to deprive him of that?


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KEYWORDS: civilwar; coincollecting; coins; currency; godsgravesglyphs; history; idabumpkin; jamesbuchanan; presidents; traitorworshippers; whitesupremacists
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To: Non-Sequitur
Looks as if y'all already have someone playin’ the Abe figure. Pretty authentic too.

How about Grant ?

481 posted on 08/25/2010 8:35:06 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: Idabilly

You should avoid trying clever. You really suck at it. Stick to being a sullen cowardly cyberbully. You’re much better at it.


482 posted on 08/25/2010 8:38:28 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Nope. I mean that I have absolutely no doubt that you're just as foul mouthed, foul tempered, and blissfully moronic in person as you are on the forum. What part of that is unclear?

As I am just as sure that you are equally cowardly and dishonest in person as you are on the forum. That clear enough for ya, dufus?

If they don't want to run with the big dogs then they should stay away.

I am also sure that you are as disrespectful and loathsome to females in person as you are on the forum.

Their phony indignation grows tiring after a while. So does your's on their behalf.

Phoniness is the pigsty the coven wallows in.

For instance, you, the dubious leader of FR's cowardly coven, are as phony as they come.

483 posted on 08/25/2010 8:43:27 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: mac_truck
My own research into the subject has concluded that it would be extremely unlikely that any ex-confederate soldier or prominant(sic) seccessionist(sic) living in Chesterfield County SC in 1871 wasn't a member of the KKK. If that is an uncomfortable truth for some of you neo-reb halfwits, tough sh*t.

Gee, by all means slander everyone. White, SC & ex-confederate = Klansman? Stupid much? You, my friend, are no Mensa member.

484 posted on 08/25/2010 8:43:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockrr
OMG you’re right! You don’s suppose....you know...they... together...;-)

I'll avoid that mental image if you don't mind.

485 posted on 08/25/2010 8:49:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rockrr
Fine. You little pencil pushing geeks can stick to slandering females too. We all know that in all your " collectivism, " y'all couldn't whoop a fly..
486 posted on 08/25/2010 8:52:09 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: Idabilly
Looks as if y'all already have someone playin’ the Abe figure. Pretty authentic too.

And I quote: "I'll even dress up like disHonest Abe, Stove pipe hat and all... and, I'll slap you around and make you lick my boots."

If that ain't a picture of you then I'll eat my Lincoln Coven Membership Card.

487 posted on 08/25/2010 8:52:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mac_truck
Nonsense. We're talking about a very specific slice of time in a very specific location involving a reltively small group of people.

If you're only discussing a very specific slice of time, 1871 to be exact, why would you jump forward 139 years and attach a pointy hood to someone? I don't believe pride in one's heritage or ancestors is indicative of clan membership. Of course, my reasoning is sans the broad brush.

488 posted on 08/25/2010 8:54:18 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: mac_truck

clan = klan


489 posted on 08/25/2010 8:57:46 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Non-Sequitur
Gotta draw you keyboard women beaters out some how. If it takes dressing up like that Queer Lincoln, then so be it...

Must have bait to catch a rat....

490 posted on 08/25/2010 8:57:48 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: Idabilly
If it takes dressing up like that Queer Lincoln, then so be it...

I'm sure it's a labor of love on your part. So to speak.

491 posted on 08/25/2010 9:02:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mac_truck; mstar
My own research into the subject has concluded that it would be extremely unlikely that any ex-confederate soldier or prominant seccessionist living in Chesterfield County SC in 1871 wasn't a member of the KKK.

Your research? Perhaps you can justify your 'conclusion' with empirical data.

What's that? You don't have any? Your 'conclusion' is just extremely biased conjecture? Shocking! Just shocking!!

In that case, lacking empirical data, perhaps you would like to astound us with an indepth statistical analysis that would mathematically model and support your preposterous 'conclusion'.

I'd be interested to see the math. Don't forget to include the time period for your 'study', sample population (which should include some discussion on age, gender, race, financial status, etc.), dependency rules, a kurtosis model, bias and normalcy evaluation, outlier removal, 2 sigma reduction, etc. In other words, whatever it was you did to arrive at your 'conclusion'.

492 posted on 08/25/2010 9:18:48 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Well, and put them on a denomination 10 times greater than their spouses, WHO WERE ACTUALLY ELECTED!


493 posted on 08/25/2010 11:02:33 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: pnh102
As I’ve said before, we cannot get rid of the $1 bill. What are we going to tip strippers with?

Ya drop the coin in the slot...

494 posted on 08/25/2010 11:07:30 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: central_va
I see you have been to Thailand also...

Bangkok?

495 posted on 08/25/2010 11:26:03 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: southernsunshine; cowboyway; central_va; Idabilly; rustbucket
Just returned from running errands and just couldn’t stop laughing at the idea of harboring hidden cells of domestic terrorists within the family, and the picture of “Sassy Abe, Coven Taskmaster”. It is not good to burst out laughing while shopping by yourself at the grocery store.

Well my mama was right, as all you Southerns know, this is what happens when one bothers with yankee trash.

Hope ya'll are having a good day. Free Dixie!

496 posted on 08/25/2010 12:32:44 PM PDT by mstar
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; rockrr

You stay away from me, both of you.


497 posted on 08/25/2010 12:35:10 PM PDT by mstar
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To: mstar
You stay away from me, both of you

I am nowhere near you.

If you want to avoid these public forums because your delicate sensibilities might be offended, then do so. But I'll address your attention to post #280, where the AdMod gave license to "proceed to rip each others guts clean out."

If you can't stand the heat and all that.

498 posted on 08/25/2010 12:44:37 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: thecodont

Chester Arthur was only exposed after his presidency.


499 posted on 08/25/2010 12:49:58 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi (I like cats.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

You stay away from me.


500 posted on 08/25/2010 12:54:35 PM PDT by mstar
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