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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: mojitojoe

So I won’t waste anymore time on it
***Glad to see you go. Don’t let the door hit you... well, you know the rest. And, by the way, I’m sure 0bama thanks you for all the discord you have sown among conservatives on this thread.


3,641 posted on 08/14/2012 10:27:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

You’re right, looks like you backed out of your own self-opus.
____________________
Of course I am right. I never backed out, I NEVER DID IT, admit it, you were wrong. If I did an OPUS I would remember it and so would you, that.... you can count on, but it’s really not my style. Not out of the question, but if you look, you will see I barely posted at all for the past few months. I went other places where my exposure of the Kenyan gets maximum exposure. It’s very boring to have to deal with all of those Mormom ccpy and pastes that take up the entire threads. Same sh&t, different day, same posts, over and over and over and over. Nobody reads them, they are just annoyed by them.

I’m out of here, (that is not an OPUS) it means I’m hitting the sack. I promise if I OPUS out you will remember it. I can give you a heads up in a freepmail if I ever decide to do it since you seem so interested IN me doing it. I’ll even let you write it for me if you want since you’re so eager for me to do it, but I have to ok it. Okay?

Have a good one!


3,642 posted on 08/14/2012 10:28:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Kevmo

I said see ya to myself and just stopped posting. I wish I had just stayed away.
______________________________

Psssst, ceasing posting is NOT an OPUS.


3,643 posted on 08/14/2012 10:30:19 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
where you spoke ill of the Marxist Kenyan.

That's the game plan of the mittbots. Going around checking the posts of those who won't vote for THEIR POS IMPOSTER - and what they said of barry.

They are truly the cult leader's working little pawns. They AREN'T FREEPERS but IMPOSTER'S themselves!

They are pushing so hard - I just might go campaigning OUTSIDE - to show what a POS the godless one is and HIS SUPPORTERS are! Game on!!!!

Hey mittbot - Romney is the POS IMPOSTER TO THE GOP! A perfect sign for the convention!

3,644 posted on 08/14/2012 10:33:59 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mojitojoe

buh bye

I’m sure 0bama thanks you for all the discord you have sown among conservatives on this thread.


3,645 posted on 08/14/2012 10:35:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: colorcountry; Deb; exit82; nicmarlo; DollyCali; Jim Robinson; Chesterbelloc; Repub4bush; ...
Well, colorcountry, you asked for it, so I will respond...though I had not intended to say anything about it, figuring those who read it could make up their minds for themselves without my comment.

But since you asked, I refer you to your post at number 3207 on this thread where you included me with a ping to a couple of your cohorts in response to my personal stuation, particularly regarding my health. (Sorry to all for the length in advance, but the entire experience is still too fresh and there is a lot of feeling associated with it)


You know, I feel very sorry for Jeff and what he has gone through. Many Mormons who experience this type of thing are overwhelmed by the necessity to DO MORE once they have escaped death.

My Mormon MIL died in April of this year. She was absolutley terrified of death, I mean honestly, I’ve been bedside when my Mormon father died, and my Mormon grandfather, and even though they were very frightened of the judgement that was to come, they were not terrified like MIL. Honestly she screamed and held my arm as we talked about her impending death - she KNEW she wasn’t good enough, she did not know the blessed assurance that Christians know when they face the final moment.

I don’t know where Jeff stands in his relationship to Christ - only Jeff and God have that knowledge, but isn’t it wonderful that today, this very hour, Jeff can fall to his knees before Christ and acknowledge that Christ has done the final work - it is finished, there is nothing left to do but fall lovingly into his arms.

Jeff, I’m here to testify to you that there are no movies to watch, or handshakes through the veil. ..no names you must remember. It is fine with Christ that you have not learned enough to create a world, you don’t have to die thinking that the test is still to come.

Do you honestly think that that post was some kind of compliment? That it could be viewed as any type of loving "out reacht?" Do you honestly want to say to everyone here that it was not meant as a rebuke/put down/snide commentary/etc.- you fill in the blank - on my person as you called your cohorts to the post to witness it?

Had it been a sincere, loving effort on your part, you would have contacted me privately and asked me about my situation and feelings before making such a sanctimonoius "call to repentance," and acceptance of Christ. But that's not what you did.

Bearing witness is one thing, getting personal about a person's very severe health crisis and disabilities as a tool to to leverage such actions is quite another.

Any reasonable person, reading that in answer to and with a knoweldge of my own condition will know exactly how it was meant...because the feelings of the Spirit will convey it to the heart of anyone who is sincere and aware of the prior discussion and history.

How do I know this?...because I the Spirit conveyed your meaning to me...just as, I believe, you intended, but also because of the many emails and FRemails I have received regarding that reprehensible post.

How dare you try and sit in judgement of what I felt or experienced in my near death experience. How unbelievably sanctimonious and unabashadly arrogant of you to indicate that I somehow was terrified of, or feared death because I somehow had not "done enough", and doing so by having the gall to equate it to the death of someone you know, your "Mormon MIL." And how judgemental, arrogant, debasing and disrespectful of you to leave such an account of that person here on a public forum.

Shame on you and may God have mercy on you and not return your judgement with the same measure you have judged. I would desire no person, not even an enemy, go through what I experienced and I pray sincerely that you do not have to learn such a lesson the hard way...I really do...because of such judgements and dispersions that you cast.

It certainly, IMHO, does not reflect the love of Christ...but that is not my judgement to make, just my opinion.

Have you suffered for months near death? Have you almost bled out on a table with your body pretty much dismembered around you while they sought to remove a particularly nasty and large tumour and preserve your nervous system while so doing for over 19 hours on one occassion and a total of almost 40 hours in all three ops? Have you spent literally weeks in an intensive care unit and then anohter month and a half after that not being able to move off of your side with nine drain tubes in you that had to be disconnected every couple of hours so they could roll you over and then hook you back up?

Have you had to go through months of very painful rehab in the hopes...the chance...that you might walk again, or recover some of the most basic boldily functions that you have?

Until you do, or until you have, please spare me the sanctimony and arrogance. And if you have had such experiences and can still speak this way to a person who has so suffered...me being preserved according to God's will, and your "MIL" passing on through what sounds like a painful death...then you are one of the most callous people I have ever run across.

I do not recite this as any kind of pity party for myself. Not in the least. I do not pity myself, I praise God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ for the opportunity to experience these things and His tender mercies through it that I might witness for His name. But it was what I experienced and what the Lord ordained that I go through in order that I might linger for His purpose...a big part of which was to witness for Him, as I do to you now, colorcountry.

But, again, until you do experience these things, or until you personally experience what your Mormon MIL experienced yourself...please, do not be so unabashadly arrogant to try and tellme what I felt, or what you think I feared during those experiences.

So, in answer to your queation, yes, your post was offensive in the extreme, and mainly because somehow you feel capable of sitting in such judgement of others..she (your) Mormon MIL knew she "wasn't good enough"...my God man, who are you to make that judgement as she lay there passing away in agony by your own account? do you think she was conveying rational feelings at that monmment? I held the hand of a dear borother of mine who passed in agaony after yeras long fight with lymphoma...I did not worry about His agonized and pain-killer inhibited comments at that time...just about loving him and holding him and trying to make sure he knew he was loved as he crossed over.

For your information, in my case, the prayers of faithful, sincere...and humble...Christians, including many of my own faith...and I do not give a whit that you do not consider me or they Christian...they prayed in Christ's name and exerted their faith on my behalf. And you know what?

In that hour, what you or others who are so willing to label others as "not Christians" thought or prognosticate about did not matter one iota...only what Christ himself thought mattered. And He answerwed and honored those prayers and expressions of faith, along with those of so many other Christians here on FR and elsewhere who sincerely prayed for us, and exercised their faith in Jesus Christ...and according to His will and He saved me for His purposes.

I did not fear death then, and I do not fear it now. I was wrapped in the loving arms of my Savior which carried me through and I know in whom I trust and can trust forever.

The day will come...perahps soon...when my number is called. And I will answer willingly, and humbly to His call. I know where I am going, and I will bow down at my Savior's feet and bathe them with my tears, and then rejoice in Him with my father, brother, grandparents, aunts and uncles, and my other loved ones who have gone on before and are awaiting the resurrection...with me also awaiting and looking forward to reuniting with my wife and children and granchildren as they cross over that "Jordan" in their time.

Sorry to all for the length, but as I said, you, colorcountry, asked for it.

No need to respond. If you are sincere about any apology, consider it accepted in advance with no hard feelings whatsoever.

(Note: Ping to a few others who were involved in the prayer threads and the events as they occurred)

3,646 posted on 08/14/2012 10:39:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: mojitojoe; Kevmo; ansel12; TheOldLady; Tennessee Nana; greyfoxx39; Lancey Howard; Liz; ...
... and now; NOW, you duplicitous, disingenuous, deceitful little wet stain of a troll --

I just finished a funny little experiment. I Googled "KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle" with "Obama" and other search terms I clearly recalled would readily show up in many of my postings, re: Obama. (e.g., "liar." And, yes, I am totally digging the sweet, sweet irony inherent in that, believe you me.)

Using an ordinary kitchen timer, I gave myself five minutes... just to see how many I could find and copy the URLs to (or count) in that scant amount of time.

The New Desperation of Team Obama

Chris Matthews: Calling Obama's Economic Policies European Is A "Slur" [VIDEO]

“The Truth Is That Obama Is Lying…" [Video]

Barack Obama is so last season (" [...] thinks he is doing the country a favor by gracing it")

Obama Administration Squanders $100 Million Paying Electric Bills of Dead People

President Obama Goes Ringless At Presser

Gallup: Obama Disapproval Now at 51%

Mercifully, Michelle Obama decides against nude tree lighting event (Hysterical! MUST READ!)

Obama Talks Kid's Growing Pains ["She's (Malia's) Starting to Look Too Old for Me."]

Straight Talk is Alien to Prez [immigration speech nothing but "sighs and head-shaking"]

Democrats battle independents' weakening support of Obama and Congress ['Rats openly panicked now]

Official "I Am Sorry I Voted For Obama" Website (more buyer's remorse from clueless libs)

Know what's reeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaally fascinating about that first dozen, right there, you intellectually impotent little 'roid wipe...?

Not only are they threads where I talk Obama; they're threads that SAY "POSTED BY KENTTRAPPEDINLIBERALSEATTLE," in large, impossible-to-miss bold black lettering.

Another FOUR HUNDRED + Obama threads -- some initiated by me; others where I "only" commented -- all popped up in those first five minutes of fast, sloppy searching, as well.

You claimed to have read "every single posting of [mine], back to the day [I] joined."

YOU. LIED.

My God, but it must be a series of unending horrors and humiliations, having to live out your sullen, miserable, mingy excuse of a life being...

... well... being you, ultimately.

That, in and of itself, is the finest, sweetest draught of vengeance possible.

Kiss-kiss, clown shoes.

Know. Your. Place.

(Friends whom I've PINGed: just wanted my name cleared publicly, once and for all, from this dizzy little online eunuch's bumbled depradations, is all. Know what you're really dealing with, from now on, whenever you interact with this failed vertebrate. I'm done now.) ;)

3,647 posted on 08/14/2012 10:40:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: mojitojoe
I want back to 2003 and could find none.

Heh.

Heh.

Heh.

;)

3,648 posted on 08/14/2012 10:43:33 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Jim Robinson

I was sad yesterday afternoon, it pained me to hear it.

On Catholic radio, two programs not just one, the hosts
were saying Paul Ryan is the savior, look at his history
and beliefs, Ryan has made it okay to vote for Romney.

I don’t get it, am I off? Excuse me, Romney is the person running for President, it’s his record, virtue, history we look at right now.


3,649 posted on 08/14/2012 10:45:58 PM PDT by stpio
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To: mojitojoe; Kevmo; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Looky here,

mojitojoe
12-30-08

When Romney lost in ‘08 because NO ONE wanted THE LIAR - he hired hourly workers to do his bidding for him on a conservative site for ‘12.

I guess you had no plans for New Year’s Eve, loser!

Do you get food stamps or does ‘I don’t worry about the poor’ Romney give you food allowance for dog food?


3,650 posted on 08/14/2012 10:46:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jeff Head

God bless you, Jeff Head..You are an inspiration.


3,651 posted on 08/14/2012 10:49:38 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: presently no screen name
he [Romney] hired hourly workers to do his bidding for him on a conservative site for ‘12.

Heh. Well... he'd certainly be the one to know all about that, now, wouldn't he?

(PSSSST! Check out #3647!) ;)

3,652 posted on 08/14/2012 10:50:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, I was about to turn in, and saw your ping.

You are a true patriot and conservative. Your character is impeccable. The journey you took during your illness was widely read and supported here on FR.

I am sorry you even needed to respond on this thread, but I can understand why.

In fact, this thread is one of the sorriest things I have ever seen on Free Republic in almost 14 years of being here.

I have only come on it to directly wish you continued good health, and to hope that you continue to participate in FR.


3,653 posted on 08/14/2012 10:58:41 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: presently no screen name

When Romney lost in ‘08 because NO ONE wanted THE LIAR - he hired hourly workers to do his bidding for him on a conservative site for ‘12.
***Nahh, I doubt mojito was hired — he’s not an illegal alien.


3,654 posted on 08/14/2012 10:58:59 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; mojitojoe
YOU. LIED.mojitojoe

That's what mittbot's are paid to do. Their master is the KNOWN LIAR!

3,655 posted on 08/14/2012 11:00:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: All

Obama or Romney will be President..
Obama must be defeated..For the sake of our nation and its future..I will vote for Romney.

MY conscience will not allow me to do otherwise.


3,656 posted on 08/14/2012 11:01:06 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Good work and on calling him out!!


3,657 posted on 08/14/2012 11:01:45 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; mojitojoe
That's what mittbot's are paid to do.

Well, this gormless little mutant flatworm just got beaten like a brokeback rented mule, for his troubles! ROTFLMAO!!! ;)

3,658 posted on 08/14/2012 11:02:38 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: All

Maybe this thread will finally wind down.

To: sf4dubya
By the way, I won’t move this thread to the Religion Forum because I don’t want to burden the Religion Moderator with all this trash, but will move it out of the news forum per your request and to the backroom.

3,611 posted on 08/14/2012 8:55:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)


3,659 posted on 08/14/2012 11:05:56 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL! ‘ya think he’ll learn?


3,660 posted on 08/14/2012 11:06:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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