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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Deb
That the concerned conservatives are "Mitt-Bots" or "RINOS" is insulting, disgusting and infuriating.

Oh Debby, your concern is noted.

For the fact it is SO one sided!!


That the concerned conservatives are "OBAMA-Bots" or "secret MUSLIMs" is insulting, disgusting and infuriating.

4,121 posted on 08/15/2012 5:28:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Deb

I don’t sew!
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Well Deb maybe you should...

its very 1950s and stay-at-home-Momish..


4,122 posted on 08/15/2012 5:30:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Deb
Its obvious who the discord seamstresses are.

You 'christians' ain't got the whole truth!



4,123 posted on 08/15/2012 5:30:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: presently no screen name
Obama needs more of yours.

Hell, you'll probably vote for him twice.

4,124 posted on 08/15/2012 5:34:20 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Celtic Cross

0bama thanks you for your efforts to sow discord among conservatives on this conservative website.


4,125 posted on 08/15/2012 5:47:26 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Babbling is all you do.


4,126 posted on 08/15/2012 6:02:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: colorcountry
That whole post should be framed and put on a wall.

It is a tactic of the left to call opposing opinions “hate.” You should ask yourself why the Mormons do it.

I first noticed this MO of Romney supporters in 2007. It was a marked proclivity, almost a marker, it was so consistent.

In Realville, voting for liberals guarantees bad outcomes. Romney is a liberal registered as a Republican. Voting for him is nuts. I don't care what Palin or Rush or Levin or anyone else says. You reap what you sow. I'm voting for a plurality to weaken whichever liberal wins.

4,127 posted on 08/15/2012 6:14:41 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Elsie

For the fact it is SO one sided!!
***Well, a more apt description lately for such concern trolling is “For the fact it is SOW one sided!!”

Deb may not sew, but she does sow.


4,128 posted on 08/15/2012 6:32:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: ansel12

“Some of that has to be expected and endured, and ignored, if it becomes over done, over used, personal, and is creating logjams and hijackings, and too much bloodshed on threads, then a little slap down and a reminder of what freerepublic is, seems called for occasionally.”

You are right of course. I used to be of the mindset that GOP = Conservative and voted accordingly...and would have thought not voting for the GOP nominee was being a traitor. Of course, with my increasing age and experience I realize that is a naive view...but not something you can tell someone younger...or for that matter desparate to get rid of the current Dem POTUS.

“The last 3 months of an election year when freerepublic is against the GOP nominee, is going to be interesting and challenging.”

You know, from the posts I have read (especially in response to Jim’s post like this one) I am convinced that 75% of FR regulars are ABOs, and with the advent of Ryan that number has gone up. Those of us that oppose Romney, out of principle, may have to tone it down just to keep it from destroying the forum. I hate to back down like that, but at the same time I can’t see that I’m getting anyone to think, just pushing them into being more stubborn in their resolve to replace Obama with Romney, no matter how unsuitable Romney is for that purpose. Anyway, I’m probably going to post less often, and on threads where it won’t cause open warfare here on FR. I don’t like rabble rousers and if that all I can accomplish, it isn’t worth the effort. Besides, I know that ultimately America’s problems cannot be solved by political methods....they can only be made worse.


4,129 posted on 08/15/2012 6:40:36 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

I am convinced that 75% of FR regulars are ABOs,
***true inundation by CINOs, as I’ve been saying for a few years.

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I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: babygene I don’t think he’s all that interested.
To: MHGinTN It doesn’t matter what a FReeper thinks. It’s just a list that they tell us what they think. That way we can tell who we’re dealing with.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: Jim Robinson Hah hah, that’s great. I signed up 2 months after you and I’m a newbie. Back then no one even said, “Welcome to FR”. But yeah, I do think that there are tons of RINOs. To be more accurate, the term would be CINOs.
I’ve been pushing for an idealogical litmus matrix here on FR, not to get rid of RINOs but to expose them.
THE GOP DOESN’T WANT US- SO WHAT’S NEXT?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=762#762
***It simply takes too long. Look at this thread alone. I see evidence of RINOism in some of the FReepers on this thread. It takes 700 posts to drill down. We need the matrix posted and available so that we don’t have to drill down on every FReeping thread. They’re wasting our time. Deliberately.

Agreed to a large degree. Perhaps a way to rate members by other members???
762 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:43:23 PM by roamer_1
130 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:39:20 PM by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
49 posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 7:29:27 PM by Kevmo ( It’s all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies] 48 posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:25:08 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)

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4,130 posted on 08/15/2012 6:49:29 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie

LOL... great read.


4,131 posted on 08/15/2012 6:52:27 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Elsie

////and I may find time to address them./////

your arrogance is not really appealing enough to entice me to go back and re post in-order to have anymore discussion with you......

you are a shining light for Christianity...../sarcasam


4,132 posted on 08/15/2012 7:01:53 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Revolting cat!
Are you missing your fantasy girl? We hear she went to South America to seach for that long lost car.

Had a thing for Opels. Made her feel all sexy.

4,133 posted on 08/15/2012 7:06:41 PM PDT by BlueDragon (try looking on a beach somewhere? I dunno, but she aint here, that's for sure.)
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To: Kevmo

Please read some of what I was responding to before butting in.


4,134 posted on 08/15/2012 7:10:06 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: presently no screen name

If babbling is what I do, boy, then babbling is what you do. Because your ‘romney’ comment is pretty much the same as my ‘obama’ comment.


4,135 posted on 08/15/2012 7:13:09 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Celtic Cross

I did.


4,136 posted on 08/15/2012 7:16:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Celtic Cross

‘romney’ is pretty much the same as ‘obama’.


4,137 posted on 08/15/2012 7:27:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kevmo

“I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.”

I don’t agree with the “old guard” that can pretty much say what they want and get away with it. However, this is Jim’s website, not mine. Plus, I don’t contribute that much to maintain it. So, once again, I don’t see that I can complain. I also agree that the site is overrun with CINOs.

I agree with you that many of the original FReepers were probably more GOP loyalists than true conservatives (meaning to hold to all three legs of conservatism - SOCONism, NATDEFism, and Fiscalism). Many were of a very libertarian bent or just fiscally conservative. However, you can’t really blame Jim for being loyal to those he has traveled a long time with.

Hang in there. Keep records of those that rabidly promote an ABO agenda. You will note, should they get Romney elected, they will be the ones to scream the loudest when he screws up. So, watch and wait. It will be interesting.


4,138 posted on 08/15/2012 8:18:35 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Placemarker


4,139 posted on 08/15/2012 8:20:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: Kevmo

“I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.”

I just checked you about page. You have been here since 1998! I’m surprized Jim would call you a Newbie. I’ve only been here since 2003 (I lurked for a time before). So, I’m a “Newbie” in the eyes of the Old Guard.


4,140 posted on 08/15/2012 8:22:47 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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