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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: HiTech RedNeck

i never knew that ‘conservative’ was some kind of fetish attitude for which one willingly became short sighted.
***Short sided, huh? So tell me, then, what is your plan for getting a conservative into the POTUS slot for 2016 if Romney wins? Unseating a republican president?


4,501 posted on 08/16/2012 7:36:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So then you agree, Christ correcting a false teacher is within Christ’s teachings, and His followers should do the same.


4,503 posted on 08/16/2012 7:39:41 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

Then you know enough to realize that Jesus claimed to be the Messiah and also God Himself. He did this in front of the sanhedrin, even His enemies acknowledge the claim. These are historical facts. Perhaps there are some historical facts in the Torah that you think I’m overlooking, that would have direct bearing on the state of my soul? Because your steadfast overlooking of THESE facts DOES have direct bearing on your soul.

Also, in your Torah (what we read as) Genesis 49:12, your Messiah has already come.

You cannot claim ignorance of these facts.


4,504 posted on 08/16/2012 7:44:44 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie

Jesus established “ONE church” and He said Satan would never overcome His Church - Matthew 16:18.

“Yes, He did.

And that ‘church’ is the corporate body of believers; not a large, institutionalized and centralized organization.”

~ ~ ~

The one sentence comeback from those who deny there is one Church. Yeah, a “body” of inconsistent “believers”, how does that fit “one faith?” It doesn’t and you know Our Lord’s prayer to the Father is that we all be one in belief.

God set you in this time, it’s going to happen, the unity of Christians and non-Christians coming to the faith.

What is scary is when some Christians who are anti-Catholic see the faith attacked even more, literally crucified in the near future, they will think they were right but they are wrong. First, before the evil anti-Christ....

God is going to send the divine gift of the Great Warning for the entire world.


4,505 posted on 08/16/2012 7:45:25 PM PDT by stpio
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The clothespin nose voter rightly long views your quest as quixotic.
***Then that begs the question of what you’re doing here on FR at all. FR was started by Don Quixotes. Its owner is a Don Quixote, we follow Quixotic principles and to come here and try to separate us from our ‘quixotic’ principles means that you’re a troll.

If I were to go over to a website started by Jeremiah Wright and spend time trying to separate them from their own ‘quixotic’ beliefs, it would be obvious trolling. The Owner himself is a quixote. The folks who flocked together in him as birds of a feather are all quixotes. Going over there to argue them out of their quixotic beliefs would simply be trolling. How are you different, here?


4,506 posted on 08/16/2012 7:49:16 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks JR..solid observations.. me I am writing in Ron Paul ...I just can not vote for either of the guys running


4,507 posted on 08/16/2012 7:50:19 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Elsie

AB tells US how to do business: period.
***I know I’m dense, but... who is AB?


4,508 posted on 08/16/2012 7:52:32 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: nicmarlo

I’ve already said exactly what you all are doing, and what you’re doing is acting in a manner contrary to Scripture.
***Oh, so we’re in circular repeat mode. Okaaaaaaaay, then, here goes AGAIN, the question you WILL NOT answer because the answer is so freeping obvious that you can’t answer.

Was Jesus being Christ-like when He confronted false teachers of His day, calling them “sons of the devil”?

You effectively accuse Christ of being unChrist-like in your quest to saddle His followers with extra burdens that even Christ saw fit not to carry.


4,509 posted on 08/16/2012 7:56:41 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie

Dear Elsie: I’m pretty sure you didn’t answer. There is no way you are bent out of shape about Mormon “false teaching” and yet you think Jews are just peachy for teaching that Christ was not God, not even a prophet.

And there is no way this little cabal of fundametalist Christians who hate Mormonism, feel warm and fuzzy about Roman Catholics.

The bottom line is you are an intolerant group with a hang up about Mormons in particular.

But you know if you tell your true feelings about Jews and Catholics you’ll find yourselves in bigot central pleading your case.

And that’s one reason I resent the efforts by a bunch of intolerant non Catholics to tell Catholics why they should hate Mormons and how Mormonism hates them. Even to the point of one of you saying I can’t be a Catholic while lecturing me on Catholic anti Mormon doctrine.

And Elsie, dear, you’ve got to be kidding me taking that long and all those wise guy posts in answer to the simple question of your opinion on the religions of Jews and Catholics. Not fooling anyone. Bigots do not hate only one other religion.

And let me tell you folks in parting, I am near 60 years old 16 years of Catholic education, and a life time of Catholic and religious study. NEVER in my life have I heard a priest mention Mormonism or display on any subject the level of intolerance and zealotry displayed here against Mormons. Don’t dare lecture others on their own religions.

Have a good night kids.


4,510 posted on 08/16/2012 7:56:50 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Future Snake Eater

It’s pretty clear from Christ’s own words that our deeds are irrelevant when it comes to salvation.
***There’s a secondary point where God isn’t looking at you in terms of salvation, but what kind of crowns He can reward you with. Some of us may have all of our works burned up and ONLy have salvation, others of us will have many crowns of righteousness to celebrate.


4,512 posted on 08/16/2012 8:07:03 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Williams
NEVER in my life have I heard a priest mention Mormonism

Pope John II did, in his official pronouncement on Mormonism.

4,513 posted on 08/16/2012 8:08:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: sf4dubya

kevmo, there were at least 50 times in this thread where I let you have the last word, but you keep replying to posts I make to other posters. I am not interested in a scripture war, and there is really no way to convince me to convert to Christianity or whatever you are pushing. It is a waste of your time. Go convert Romney.
***No thanks. God seems to have placed a burden on my heart for you. So maybe you could go and convert Romney or his followers on some other thread. In the meantime, please look at the FACTS of christianity, that Jesus factually claimed equality with God before the sanhedrin. Your response could be an indicator before God, your soul could be at stake.


4,515 posted on 08/16/2012 8:10:38 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie
Is Your Name Written There?
 
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/i/s/ismyname.htm
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgrRisMp7FA
 
 

4,517 posted on 08/16/2012 8:11:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I’ve never understood that verse.

That's because OTHER verses expand on the BoL.

THIS verse talks about OTHER books.

4,519 posted on 08/16/2012 8:13:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Future Snake Eater
It’s pretty clear from Christ’s own words that our deeds are irrelevant when it comes to salvation.

Well; FSE, you've opened a can of WORMS now!! ;^)


John 6:28-29 (niv)

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

 


1 John 3:21-24

  Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.  And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.  The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


4,520 posted on 08/16/2012 8:15:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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