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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Resettozero
Flora Nita Maria deGriswald-Sanchez (Flourine)

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4,661 posted on 08/17/2012 10:43:11 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: MD Expat in PA
You really don’t get it. Thomas Jefferson had no problem with anyone practicing or expressing their own personal religious or even their non-religious beliefs, but Jefferson also did not believe in any sort of religious litmus test for holding public office or that it had any place in political discourse or forcing by law, adherence to any free citizen, the prevailing religious belief.

No; YOU really don’t get it.

How many times will it have to be posted on FR before everyone 'gets' it?

The GOVERNMENT makes no test - NOT individuals!

WE can use any criteria we WANT to 'test' who will receive our acceptance to be our Leader.

4,662 posted on 08/17/2012 10:45:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo
***There’s only 2 judgements as far as I can tell. The first one deciding whether you’re in or out, whether we’re a sheep or a goat. And the second one, looking at what we did here and parceling out rewards.

This is the way I read it, too;

Of course; there may be OTHER teachings out there, but I've yet to see any that held water - when compared to the testimony of the Scriptures.

4,663 posted on 08/17/2012 10:48:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Elitims to its core...No wonder Elsie posts that "I'm superior" list by Mormons.


 

MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 
                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
 
 
Revision 46.5
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.

4,664 posted on 08/17/2012 10:50:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
No wonder Elsie posts that “I’m superior” list by Mormons.

better than you

4,666 posted on 08/17/2012 11:07:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Elsie

Oh Els look what gf did !!!

Beastie and 4K

:)


4,667 posted on 08/17/2012 11:12:21 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: wmfights; Jim Robinson; Finny; EternalVigilance; Dr. Sivana; GailA; RitaOK; Windflier; Diogenes; ...
Wmfights:

With all due respect:

If you believe that Romney is a moderate despite his lifelong track record;

If you believe that Romney will repeal Obozocare and not REPLACE (as he says) it with something just about as dreadful like his Massachusetts Romneycare which is worse:

If you believe that Romney will EVER be a social conservative:

If you believe that the Tea Party movement will EVER have any influence on Romney whatsoever, much less comparable to the corrupt Wall Street corporate crowd who financed his campaign of character assassination against each and every worthy Republican candidate in exchange for Lucifer only knows what promises of gummint graft:

If you think a Congress led by soulless trash and special interest money-grubbing corruptocrats in GOP drag like Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell is going to do anything other than what Mittler tells them to do (which will not be pretty):

If you think that Paul Ryan (who represents the district which is about five miles north of me and betrayed my quite conservative Congressman Don Manzullo for opposing further increases in the debt limit which the leaders lust for as will Romney) is some sort of future conservative political secular messiah:

Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? That Amelia Earhart and Judge Crater are alive and well and awaiting their rescuers?

I gather you are referencing Dubya when calling Bush a "blue dog rat." If you think Dubya was a blue dog rat, you ain't seen nuthin' yet until you see a Romney presidency. Mittler will make us remember Dubya as worthy of Mount Rushmore by comparison with Mittler, a lifelong pro-abort, a lifelong gun grabber, a life-long gushy cheerleader for all things rump-ranger, an appointer of judges who will remind us that Roberts and Alito were extremely worthy additions to SCOTUS compared to any trash that Mittler would appoint.

I also really hate to have a GOP candidate whose entire stance is dishonest on every issue that counts. And for the very first time, I won't be voting for the GOP ticket for POTUS and VPOTUS. From Nixon in 1968 to McCain in 2008 I have voted exclusively GOP at that level. The GOP will have to do a LOT better than warning me that the Demonrat is the boogieman to get my vote from here on out.

Tom Hoefling for POTUS, a vote that won't make me have to apologize to my Maker in November or when my final time comes. I have plenty of faults and have engaged in plenty of disobedience in my lifetime. Voting for Romney won't be added to the burden I bear.

I also love the way no Romney supporter here identifies him/herself as such without the ritual of explaining that, of course, Romney was not his/her first choice (or tenth choice for that matter). In your case, based upon your posting history here and although I certainly disagree with you from time to time, I don't doubt that Romney was no favorite of yours. OTOH, if you vote for him, you have bought the results of that vote. If he is elected, another five million babies die and he won't lift a finger to resist, fudge-packing posing as "marriage" will become a national norm with his "civilized" ruling class airhead support, the GOP brand will be permanently destroyed and we will have to destroy the party and replace it. AND financial corruption as a payoff to his backers will make the "Chicago Way" look like Mother Teresa of Calcutta.

I think that most conservatives would have coalesced behind Sarah Palin but she declined to run. She and not Mittler is that living embodiment of the Tea Party movement and most other conservative values. We did have far too many candidates to choose from. It is a mistake that should never be allowed to happen again. Movement leadership MUST choose a nominee long before the primaries begin. We must take back control of the RNC, change the rules, refuse to allow MSM run debates (primary or general election) just as we routinely reject the opinions of the American Bar Association on judges, and we must determine to absolutely punish ANY future candidate who runs the sort of lavishly funded primary campaign of lies and character assassination that was Romney's 2012 campaign.

When this year's election is history, no matter WHO wins, conservatives must unite to destroy the winner starting on election night and to undermine, reject and replace the "GOP" leadership in each house of Congress and to systematically exterminate politically as many spineless moderates in House and Senate as possible, using third party candidates as necessary to discipline the offenders. Are you willing to help with that???

4,668 posted on 08/17/2012 11:20:34 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Thanks for the pic gf

:)


4,669 posted on 08/17/2012 11:27:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya

I don’t think I’ll be reading your posts any more on this thread. You wanted the last word, so you can have it.


4,670 posted on 08/17/2012 11:27:15 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie
WE can use any criteria we WANT to 'test' who will receive our acceptance to be our Leader.

***************************

Exactly right.

4,671 posted on 08/17/2012 11:29:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sf4dubya; Kevmo; Resettozero; Colofornian; colorcountry; Jim Robinson; Elsie; Godzilla; ...
Ignorance of Person A on Subject: Jewish View of Gentiles is blamed on Person B.

Ignorance of Person A of Subject: Jewish View of mormonism is Corrected on a Jewish Site by Person Jew.

Joseph Smith's Translation Of Genesis 1:1 [Source: Jews for Judaism]

"Smith, as we have seen above, had little, if any, knowledge of Hebrew language and grammar. In writing the Book of Mormon, assuming he is the author, Smith relied heavily on the King James Version of the Bible, where these two nouns are erroneously rendered as cherubims (for example, Genesis 3:24) and seraphims (for example, Isaiah 6:2). All said, Smith shows himself to have been a fraud who misled his followers with fanciful renderings of Scripture."

4,675 posted on 08/17/2012 12:19:24 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: greyfoxx39

All said, Smith shows himself to have been a fraud who misled his followers with fanciful renderings of Scripture.”
***But he’s good with the jewish faith, according to SF4W. Apparently, the folks who aren’t good with the jewish faith are those who confront such heretics like the freepers on this thread. Bull shiite.


4,676 posted on 08/17/2012 12:26:23 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
No faceless, nameless, flapping mouth on the internet has ANY standing to tell ANYONE they have "serious spiritual problems".

Vote for anyone you want, then keep your sanctimonious, pretend knowledge of God's judgments to yourself...although they do have a certain comedic value coming from such a pompous blowhard.

4,677 posted on 08/17/2012 12:30:25 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: Deb

No faceless, nameless, flapping mouth on the internet has ANY standing to tell ANYONE they have “serious spiritual problems”.
***I do, and I did. It’s simple discernment.

Vote for anyone you want, then keep your sanctimonious, pretend knowledge of God’s judgments to yourself...
***Maybe you should follow your own babe-in-the-woods advice.

although they do have a certain comedic value coming from such a pompous blowhard
***You’re welcome, then. You’re quite the pompous blowhard yourself, I’ve noticed. So which are you, the pot or the kettle?


4,679 posted on 08/17/2012 12:35:28 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya
Because as a out of the respect for Christian belief,

1lg017ROFL Pictures, Images and Photos

4,680 posted on 08/17/2012 12:39:14 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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