The Marriage of Obama's Parents: 'In Name Only'?

American Thinker ^ | March 8, 2014 | Shawn Glasco

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:

1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."

2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.

3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.

[little jeremiah]

Don’t be discouraged.

I think the press conference will be...interesting.

And dismay a lot of people who are invested in fairy tales.

[little jeremiah]

Well as you know a ton of top Generals have been relieved of command.

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Yes, under a CIC who is an ineligible usurper....

[okie01]

Many states, till the 70’s had laws prohibiting mixed race marriages, I wonder if Hawaii even allowed marriages between the white and black raced couples back then.

Hawaii was a multi-racial state from the outset. It's very doubtful that there would've been any miscegenation laws.

[Fred Nerks]

I really have no idea what that statement might mean. Literally, one could assume that his name wasn't Barack Hussein Obama until it was bequeathed to him before he went back to Kenya

Does that refer to the return to Kenya in 1964, or after his visit in 1970/71? You tell me.

But to have something bequeathed to you, the bequest comes from a deceased person.

And the kenyan student didn't die until 1982.

It's just another example of zero not speaking the same language as we do. It's like he was delivered from some alien culture. Maybe too much time in Indonesia does that to one.

He's obviously aware on some level, that he wasn't born as Barack Hussein Obama. It just slips out. Like when Malik says he played with his brother Barack when they were growing up. Or that Barack taught school in Uganda.

We do have a very good idea who that boy is, don't we? He's the boy whose mother was Anna. He grew up in Kenya, and they are trying to tell us his name was David.

And when he went to Moscow to attend the Lumumba University, they killed him off in a fake motor-cycle accident...but before he left, he had his photograph taken with his father:

[okie01]

So Obama doesn't have a legal daddy and he's a US citizen. Unless he was adopted by the Indonesian which makes him an Indonesian citizen.

Be aware that adoption and acquiring foreign citizenship thereby does not change the status of a child born in the USA.

In the eyes of American law, the child remains a US citizen until renouncing that citizenship as an adult!

The argument that adoption by Soetoro and, thus, becoming a citizen of Indonesia permanently changed Obama's citizenship status in the USA is completely specious.

[little jeremiah]

Losing your freedom to a bunch of marxists is a h+ll of a way to find out. Some never will. It’s almost too late.

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For some reason I get more optimistic every day. There are people with courage and principles, I’m replying to one with this comment!

[Fred Nerks]

...There’s a photo with the Kenyan 0bama and Stanley Ann under a Christmas tree from that visit, can’t remember if 10 yr old Zero is in that photo or not.

Yes, that photograph was of three people, Stanley Ann, the kenyan and a tubby little boy, exchanging gifts, all looking very unnatural. But he was there, apparently he gave a talk to the children in zero's class about Africa. However, the teacher just happened to be the woman, who as a student, had that very unlikely conversation with Dr West, when he DIDN'T tell her that he had delivered Stanley Ann of a baby. So are her anecdotes trustworthy?

But here's the image:

[little jeremiah]

He’s obviously aware on some level, that he wasn’t born as Barack Hussein Obama. It just slips out. Like when Malik says he played with his brother Barack when they were growing up. Or that Barack taught school in Uganda.

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Yes indeed; many slip-ups - forgetting his birthdate, etc. He grew up with various indentities and now he’s a psycho.

[little jeremiah]

Be aware that adoption and acquiring foreign citizenship thereby does not change the status of a child born in the USA.

In the eyes of American law, the child remains a US citizen until renouncing that citizenship as an adult!

The argument that adoption by Soetoro and, thus, becoming a citizen of Indonesia permanently changed Obama’s citizenship status in the USA is completely specious.

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That’s making the assumption that the mythical parentage in Bill Ayer’s “composite characters” book is real... Not a safe assumption to work from.

[little jeremiah]

Aha, I thought little Zero was in the picture - and I was going to say “tubby”! But I wasn’t 100% sure he was in the photo.

[okie01]

That’s making the assumption that the mythical parentage in Bill Ayer’s “composite characters” book is real... Not a safe assumption to work from.

I made no assumptions. I spoke in terms of "a child born in the the USA". And the statement is absolutely true -- for any "child born in the USA".

It follows that would also be true for Obama, if he was born in the USA (and I don't know if he was...or wasn't).

[rolling_stone]

....The photos have been debunked numerous times and beaten to death on several threads.

The woman is not SAD and the whoever the photographer was, there is not an atom of evidence linking FMD.....

don't be so sure..yes there was a debunking by loren C an Obot but he missed a few details..

and now how about some questions that I have not seen answered in response to the fotos
1 was Ann Dunham an au-pair in Chicago summer 1960 when she was 17?

2. was FMD in Chicago in summer 1960? He was married to Helen Canfield a trust fund baby from Chicago...could they have travelled to Chicago where FMD and Stanley Ann meet?

3. Were the risqueé pictures taken in Hawaii in a strange Tudor style house described as the only one like it or in a house in Chicago?
inquiring minds would like to know...

[little jeremiah]

Ah, got it.

Although there have been long discussions about minor children being able to give up US nationality while overseas when adopted by foreign nationals.

No real conclusion. But since Zero probably was not born in the US, it’s moot.

[little jeremiah]

Were the risqueé pictures taken in Hawaii in a strange Tudor style house described as the only one like it or in a house in Chicago?

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Not in FMD’s house in HI. And since some of the photos of the model (and some others) were printed in a magazine in 1958, it is obvious that SAD is not that model. Did you see the photo comparison posted above? Different chins, brow lines, etc. The model in 1958 is a grown woman. In 1958 SAD is a rather unattractive adolescent.

[Fred Nerks]

In the dark place in my mind where the truth hides because it's too scary to bring it out into the light...I can see what they put him through, they told him he was an Indonesian Prince, then sent him back to Hawaii on his own, then introduced him to the black Luo native and told him, this is your father, so then he told his classmates, I'm the son of an African Chief. He lived with that until one day he found his birth certificate, which showed the data of the son of Anna and the kenyan, with a birthdate in January 1961. So they told him that Stanley Ann's name was really ANNA. And how they quibbled the new birthdate later is anyone's guess.

But living not far away was a man who knew who he really was.

That man was Frank Marshall Davis.

And from that moment on, when he understood he was the son of a man who had been assassinated and his mother was an actress still living, his hatred began to consume him. None of these people were fit to bring up a child, they were all engaged in their own ambitions and politics.

That made him the perfect tool for the man who once declared, one day, we will have the presidency of the united states...

that's the cliff-note version FWIW.

[woofie]

Causes reason for suspicion don’t you think?

no

[Fred Nerks]

That's so sad. We've clearly shown that Joel Gilbert falsified the address of the Elk Club in the caption, we've shown the house at Kahili Street with the address as downloaded from Google Earth. Both on this very same thread.

And now someone wants to know if that house was in Chicago?

Sisyphus, are you still pushing that rock up the hill, only to watch it roll back down again?

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3130965/posts?page=161#161

THE FALSE CAPTION

[okie01]

Although there have been long discussions about minor children being able to give up US nationality while overseas when adopted by foreign nationals.

It would then be up to the kids to go to the American consulate, upon reaching their majority, to formally renounce their US citizenship (and nationality...they're not quite the same thing).

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3130965/posts?page=166#166

THE HOUSE AT THE ADDRESS OF THE FALSE CAPTION